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Friday, May 26, 2017

grif <griffin_230@hotmail.com>: May 26 12:33AM +0100

On 26/05/2017 00:28, Guypers wrote:
>> 'fine' film about 'river of life'... but the problem is that it's sort
>> of boring... at least for me.
 
> Liked A River ...., fine photography, true to the book, Skerritt was good, well narrated by the sun dance kid, Mr. Novacaine Jaw himself, American West, glorious!
 
I agree, "A River Runs Through It" had a reflective, elegiac quality to it. A good film with gorgeous cinematography.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: May 26 04:38AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 6:45:22 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
> actor while Aidan Quinn must be one of the worst actors to ever grace
> the silver screen.
 
> Other than that it's brilliant.
 
I disagree completely. Sure there were some improbable happenings in Legends of the Fall but overall, I enjoyed the story and found the weakest link of the movie to be Hopkins' over the top performance. I also liked A River Runs Through It very much. Both are similar in feel and both are beautifully shot films.
 
Speaking of screwball comedies and The Lady Eve which was directed by Preston Sturges, last night I watched another Preston Sturges classic screwball comedy, The Palm Beach Story(1942) starring Claudette Colbert. Basically, I disliked it from start to finish.
 
I don't see how it's labelled as a screwball comedy because although it's plenty zany(and not in a good way), it's not funny or clever and has none of the rapid pace dialogue or intelligent battle of the sexes theme which are the hallmarks of screwball comedies. The premise is ludicrous and it's actually quite dull throughout.
 
Don't get me started on the lead female character (played by Colbert) and how unbelievable and silly her reason for being is. I realize this came out in 1942 but how her character is portrayed in this film is beyond belief even for that time period.
 
SPOILER AHEAD:
 
The premise is that she is in a marriage where her husband isn't making enough money as an architect to cover their expenses and she couldn't "cook or sew" and had no use (according to her) other than to attract wealthy males who would throw money at her based on her physical attractiveness so that she could have money for herself and her husband or soon to be ex-husband in order for him to have the financial backing for his harebrained ideas. As if this idea isn't absurd enough, casting the unattractive Colbert as a woman who would have men fall at her feet and throw her money is unbelievable. Colbert was a good actress but believable as a seductress? No way.
 
The chemistry between the leads Colbert and Joel McCrea was nonexistent and all the other characters were irritating. The "surprise" ending was so stupid and unsatisfying it added to the absurdity of the entire movie. If Bringing Up Baby and His Girl Friday are A+ screwball comedies and for me they are, The Palm Beach Story is a Z-level screwball comedy.
 
TT, if you have seen this film please don't tell me you liked it! I'll never be able to erase that from my mind. It's such a dumb, pointless and poorly crafted movie IMO.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: May 26 04:40AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 7:33:49 PM UTC-4, grif wrote:
> >> of boring... at least for me.
 
> > Liked A River ...., fine photography, true to the book, Skerritt was good, well narrated by the sun dance kid, Mr. Novacaine Jaw himself, American West, glorious!
 
> I agree, "A River Runs Through It" had a reflective, elegiac quality to it. A good film with gorgeous cinematography.
 
Yes, and Legends of the Fall had a similar quality. Did you see Legends of the Fall? Don't listen to some of these morons on RST.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: May 26 04:44AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 6:45:22 PM UTC-4, TT wrote:
 
> I don't think Hopkins necessarily botched it though,
 
Yes, he botched it. He was the worst part of the movie IMO.
 
 
> Brad Pitt is terrible one note
> actor
 
Agreed but I don't think he was bad in this movie.
 
 
> while Aidan Quinn must be one of the worst actors to ever grace
> the silver screen.
 
He's a pretty stiff actor but he used to be cute!
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: May 26 02:48PM +0300

On 26.5.2017 14:40, Court_1 wrote:
 
>>> Liked A River ...., fine photography, true to the book, Skerritt was good, well narrated by the sun dance kid, Mr. Novacaine Jaw himself, American West, glorious!
 
>> I agree, "A River Runs Through It" had a reflective, elegiac quality to it. A good film with gorgeous cinematography.
 
> Yes, and Legends of the Fall had a similar quality.
 
So did Agassi's farewell speech.
 
Bharath Purohit <acebharath@gmail.com>: May 26 03:01AM -0700

Start the Hops contest bro ~
DavidW <no@email.provided>: May 26 08:56PM +1000

On 26-May-17 8:01 PM, Bharath Purohit wrote:
> Start the Hops contest bro ~
 
Draw is not posted yet.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: May 26 04:46AM -0700

The only thing I know about the draw so far is that Djokovic and Nadal are in the same half.
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: May 26 12:47PM +0300

https://twitter.com/SteveKopack/status/867758571882258432
 
Awwwww.
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: May 26 04:34AM -0700

lol
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: May 26 03:54AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 11:59:06 PM UTC-4, StephenJ wrote:
 

> coffee, it wouldn't be fair to you for me to bring my wife because you'd
> want to be the star of the room, and that's very hard to pull off when
> she's around.
 
 
*rolls eyes*
 
 
 
> But no need to meet up, as my Facebook profile pic is
> public at the link below. How about yours?
 
> https://www.facebook.com/steve.jaros
 
I don't use Facebook. Sorry.
SliceAndDice <vishalkn@gmail.com>: May 25 05:13PM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 1:30:03 PM UTC-4, *skriptis wrote:
 
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AS -> ASS
 
:)
Gerrit 't Hart <sad@for.you>: May 26 12:43PM +0800

On 25/05/2017 7:56 AM, *skriptis wrote:
 
> Also their first names Stefanos and Felix begin with first letters
> of their predecessor surnames. Sampras and Federer.
 
> All signs are there. Stunning.
 
Reincarnation presupposes that the person who is "reincarnated (if that
is a word) dies.
I haven't heard either Sampras or Federer dying.
Another thing is that in reincarnation belief the reincarnation happens
at the moment of death NOT on their birthdate.
Oh (and BTW) if someone is born "on the same day" that means that these
two youngsters are just as old as Sampras and Federer.
Just don't display your ignorance in future please!
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 26 06:40PM +1000

On 26/05/2017 10:13 AM, SliceAndDice wrote:
 
>> :)
 
> AS -> ASS
 
> :)
 
ER -> clown ERa
 
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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: May 26 12:18PM +0200

> Oh (and BTW) if someone is born "on the same day" that means that these
> two youngsters are just as old as Sampras and Federer.
> Just don't display your ignorance in future please!
 
I was speaking about tennis reincarnation.
 
Also I seem to remember watching twilight zone or the outer limits
episode about a dying man accidentally meeting himself in j is
future life, and that life had ready started, he met a young man.

 
 
So it's possible?
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"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: May 26 12:46PM +0300

They sell cars to us!
 
Der Spiegel and the Süddeutsche Zeitung (links in German), each citing
sources who were at the meeting, reported Trump calling the Germans
"bad, very bad" for their running a trade surplus with the US. "Look at
the millions of cars they're selling in the US. Terrible. We will stop
this," he told European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker and
European Council president Donald Tusk, according to Der Spiegel. In an
interview in January, Trump had told German newspaper Bild that he would
slap a 35% import tax on BMWs assembled in Mexico, with an eye to
getting manufacturers to set up shop in the US.
 
Juncker reportedly defended the Germans, making the case for free trade
in a friendly but firm tone, Spiegel reports. The EU leaders were also
appalled at the Americans' poor knowledge of EU-US trade policy, both
papers say. Chief economic adviser Gary Cohn, the former president of
Goldman Sachs, seemed to think that there were different customs tariffs
between the US and Germany than between the US and Belgium, according to
Der Spiegel. (In fact, all euro-zone countries abide by the same tariff
policy.) Unsurprisingly, reported the Süddeutsche Zeitung, there was "no
rapprochement" in economic and trade issues.
 
https://qz.com/992271/trump-reportedly-called-germany-bad-very-bad-and-threatened-to-stop-americans-from-buying-bmws/
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: May 26 12:38PM +0300

According to Trump:
 
Today, Donald Trump reportedly called Germany, a close American ally,
"bad, very bad!" for selling too many cars in the United States. Here
are the other countries Donald Trump says are bad.
 
Bad countries:
 
Germany ("bad, very bad")
Belgium (hellhole)
Sweden
Canada (very unfair to our dairy farmers)
France (according to his friend Jim)
Iran
North Korea
Also kinda South Korea
ISIS
 
Formerly bad countries that are now good:
 
China
Saudi Arabia
 
Formerly okay country that's bad now:
 
Syria
 
Country he calls bad now , but you can tell his heart's not in it:
 
Russia
 
The worst country:
 
Mexico
 
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/05/25/the_bad_countries_according_to_donald_trump.html
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: May 26 07:05AM +0100

On 25/05/2017 22:15, stephenJ wrote:
 
> So? Why post to a tennis forum?
 
PKB
 
 
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Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: May 26 08:26AM +0100

On 25/05/2017 21:35, TennisGuy wrote:
> NSA and CIA and blah blah blah, especially between the closest of
> friends, that the pip-squeak mainstream news media can upstage all and
> make a complete mockery of the entire state-controlled news propaganda?
 
The President has many enemies - Democrats, media, intelligence
agencies, etc. - he has chosen to attack them all. In this environment
people will leak information, seemingly without necessarily realising
the potential effect of the release of sensitive info. Similarly the
media may choose to publish without proper consideration of the
consequences. The NYT's decision to publish crime scene photos from an
open investigation is truly astonishing.
 
 
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TT <ascii@dprk.kp>: May 26 11:36AM +0300

Brian W Lawrence kirjoitti 26.5.2017 klo 10:26:
> The NYT's decision to publish crime scene photos from an open
> investigation is truly astonishing.
 
Why? How is that going to endanger investigation?
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: May 26 10:23AM +0100

On 26/05/2017 09:36, TT wrote:
 
>> The NYT's decision to publish crime scene photos from an open
>> investigation is truly astonishing.
 
> Why? How is that going to endanger investigation?
 
Hopefully it won't hamper the investigation at all. However, law
enforcement needs to gather information and build a picture of
what happened, potentially to bring a case before the courts.
Crime scene photos are often (usually) presented to juries to
help explain what happened. Such photos should be kept out of
the public domain because they may predispose suspects, witnesses
or juries to a particular POV. If the Manchester police wanted
to publish those photos they would have done so, it's not up to
US intelligence sources or US media to decide to publish.
 
The early release of the bomber's name in the US was possibly
worse than the photos, since it may have alerted others that
the police were closing in on them.
 
 
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"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: May 26 12:10PM +0300

We knew in the campaign that Trump had a big mouth when he was caught on
tape bragging about assaulting women and getting away with it, but very
few people would have predicted that this propensity to discuss private
matters in wildly inappropriate contexts would extend to classified
intelligence.
 
After all, month after month he excoriated Hillary Clinton for allowing
some confidential emails to be inadvertently sent over her personal
email server when she was secretary of state. He said it disqualified
her, in fact, and "she should not have been allowed" to run for
president because of it.
 
Well, Donald Trump is the president now and several different government
entities are investigating his campaign and administration. And he's
been shamelessly blurting out highly sensitive intelligence to foreign
adversaries, unstable tyrants and even the press without a second thought.
 
Trump felt the need to meet with the Russian ambassador and the foreign
minister at the behest of Vladimir Putin and in the course of their
conversation he bragged that he had "great intel" and proceeded to
expose a foreign ally's asset by giving them highly sensitive
"code-word" intelligence without the ally's permission. As former CIA
chief John Brennan explained in testimony before Congress this week,
while it's true that a president has the authority to declassify
information, he is supposed to follow protocols:
 
"The first [protocol] is that this kind of intelligence is not shared
with visiting foreign ministers or local ambassadors. It's shared
through intelligence channels. The second is that, before sharing any
classified intelligence with foreign partners, it has to go back to the
originating agency to ensure that revealing it won't compromise sources,
methods and future collection capabilities."
 
There has never been a need for a protocol to guide a proudly ignorant,
inexperienced president with a pathological need to brag to everyone he
meets, since nobody anticipated such a thing before. Now we know.
 
And nobody anticipated that this same president would visit the foreign
ally he exposed and confirm to reporters from all over the world that it
had been the source of that intelligence. But Trump did that too.
 
And while Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu put on a good face
for the cameras, the effect on the relationship has been profound. After
the breach was reported, BuzzFeed spoke to two Israeli intelligence
officials who said that this was their worst fear confirmed. One
explained, "There has to be trust for this sort of arrangement. I cannot
speak for Israel's entire security apparatus, but I would not trust a
partner who shared intelligence without coordinating it with us first."
 
Foreign Policy reported that the Israeli defense minister admitted that
the two countries have since revised their "protocols" and when asked
what they were he tartly replied, "Not everything needs to be discussed
in the media; some things need to be talked about in closed rooms." A
certain president shouldn't talk about such things in closed rooms
either, since he is incapable of understanding protocols for anything.
 
But that wasn't the only report we had this week of Donald Trump's loose
lips putting national security in danger. The Intercept released a
transcript of the Trump's recent phone call with Philippine President
Rodrigo Duterte.
 
The two leaders discussed the threat from North Korea, mused about the
mental state of Kim Jong-un and batted around the idea that nuclear war
might end up being necessary. Trump said he hoped the Chinese would take
care of it but promised that if they didn't the U.S. would. Then he
shared some military secrets with a foreign leader widely seen as
unbalanced and untrustworthy:
 
"We have two submarines – the best in the world – we have two nuclear
submarines – not that we want to use them at all. I've never seen
anything like they are but we don't have to use this but [Kim] could be
crazy so we will see what happens."
 
According to BuzzFeed, the Pentagon was in shock:
 
"We never talk about subs!" three officials told BuzzFeed News,
referring to the military's belief that keeping submarines' movements
secret is key to their mission.
 
http://www.salon.com/2017/05/25/donald-trump-simply-cant-be-trusted-his-brag-about-nuclear-subs-is-only-the-latest-example/
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: May 26 11:55AM +0300

Up until this point, First Lady Melania Trump had looked particularly
uncomfortable, though she appeared to lighten up when the Pope noted her
husband's girth.
 
"What do you feed him? Potizza?" the pope asked Mrs. Trump, referring to
a Slovenian dessert.
 
"Potizza? Yes," she replied.
 
"Pizza!" Trump chimed in, a few beats late, assuming he was in on the joke.
 
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/24/the-pope-just-body-shamed-donald-trump
"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: May 26 11:52AM +0300

BRUSSELS — President Trump exported the confrontational, nationalist
rhetoric of his campaign across the Atlantic on Thursday, shaming
European leaders for not footing more of the bill for their own defenses
and lecturing them to stop taking advantage of U.S. taxpayers.
 
And he held back from the one pledge NATO leaders most dearly wanted to
hear: an unconditional embrace of NATO's solemn treaty commitment that
an attack on a single alliance nation is an attack on all of them.
 
Instead, European leaders gazed unsmilingly at Trump while he said that
"23 of the 28 member nations are still not paying what they should be
paying and what they are supposed to be paying," and that they owe
"massive amounts" from past years — a misstatement of NATO's spending
targets, which guide nations' own domestic spending decisions.
 
In the speech, Trump gave no specific commitment to Article 5, the
collective security provision that has been invoked only once —
following the September 2001 attacks. "Our NATO allies responded swiftly
and successfully, invoking for the first time the Article 5 commitment,"
Trump recalled.
 
The harsh tone had a toll, as Trump was left largely on his own after
the speech as leaders mingled and laughed with each other, leaving the
U.S. president to stand silently on a stage ahead of a group photo.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-told-in-brussels-that-west-should-focus-on-values-not-only-interests/2017/05/25/7aa1865c-40cd-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html?utm_term=.5676a1a64b9f
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: May 26 06:36PM +1000

On 26/05/2017 5:59 AM, Scott wrote:
>> who got to no.1 at that USO (Agassi, McEnroe, Lendl & Muster). It was
>> arguably the toughest slam draw of all time.
 
> As when JMDP won the USO in 2009 for his lone slam? The problem with your posts here is they invariably warrant a correction about 90% of the time.
 
I thought of him immediately, but 2 things here;
 
1. I said USO *was* arguably toughest slam to win (until current era)
2. Potro can be dismissed as a 1-off fluke.
 
Fed should have beaten Potro in 3 sets, 4 at worst. Sampras certainly
wouldn't lose to a stiff like that at his peak in a USO final
 
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