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Friday, May 26, 2017

"Welcome to Trumpton" <trumpton@maiIsorter.co.uk>: May 25 05:56PM

Dene wrote:
 
> > got back from the Middle East."
 
> Baker's existence and this supposed story have one thing in
> common....completely irrelevant.
 
If Trump had shown some real merit in some area of government I could
go along with that but with everything else it is just more evidence
that the guy is a lame duck and those that continue to stick their
heads in the sand while he rapes you are not going to be considered any
better.
 
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Most people believe there is truth and there are lies. "Alternative
facts" are lies.
"Welcome to Trumpton" <trumpton@maiIsorter.co.uk>: May 26 05:08AM

Dene wrote:
 
> Interesting FOX is the only one that's mentioning this report. Rest
> of the presstitutes are too preoccupied with collusion theories.
 
Oh, everybody, look over there!
 
FFS focus; who is the one doing all the damage right now?
 
Fight the fires in the WH now; you can look for smoke in Hawaii any
time.
 
--
Most people believe there is truth and there are lies. "Alternative
facts" are lies.
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: May 25 03:31PM -0700

Interesting FOX is the only one that's mentioning this report. Rest of the presstitutes are too preoccupied with collusion theories.
 
http://nation.foxnews.com/2017/05/24/report-obama-lied-and-obama-spied
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: May 25 03:39PM -0700

On 2017-05-25 3:31 PM, Dene wrote:
> Interesting FOX is the only one that's mentioning this report. Rest of the presstitutes are too preoccupied with collusion theories.
 
> http://nation.foxnews.com/2017/05/24/report-obama-lied-and-obama-spied
 
As if the one has anything to do with the other...
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: May 25 05:14PM -0700

More news that's not reported.
 
The latest Trump tweet reflecting the latest approval poll...48% approval.
 
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/867834190078906370
Carbon <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>: May 25 08:35PM -0400

On 05/25/2017 08:14 PM, Dene wrote:
> More news that's not reported.
 
> The latest Trump tweet reflecting the latest approval poll...48% approval.
 
> https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/867834190078906370
 
 
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
BK@Onramp.net: May 25 07:43PM -0500

On Thu, 25 May 2017 17:14:11 -0700 (PDT), Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>
wrote:
 
>More news that's not reported.
 
>The latest Trump tweet reflecting the latest approval poll...48% approval.
 
>https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/867834190078906370
 
Probably because no one believes it'll last once he gets home and
resumes his idiocy.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: May 25 06:16PM -0700

On 2017-05-25 5:14 PM, Dene wrote:
> More news that's not reported.
 
> The latest Trump tweet reflecting the latest approval poll...48% approval.
 
> https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/867834190078906370
 
Quoting Trump????
 
LOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLL
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: May 25 06:15PM -0700

...to bad news:
 
Kill the messenger.
 
'Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) called for an end to both
the Congressional Budget Office and the White House daily press briefing
in an interview on Fox Business Thursday.'
 
<http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/335148-gingrich-abolish-totally-destructive-cbo>
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: May 25 03:07PM -0700

'Carrier, the company President Trump pledged to keep on American soil,
informed the state of Indiana this week that it will soon begin cutting
632 workers from an Indianapolis factory. The manufacturing jobs will
move to Monterrey, Mexico, where the minimum wage is $3.90.
 
That was not supposed to happen, according to Trump's campaign promises.
He told Indiana residents at a rally last year there was a "100% chance"
he would save more jobs at the heating and air conditioning manufacturer.'
 
<http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-carrier-layoffs-trump-20170525-story.html>
 
'About 1,400 positions were on the chopping block, per company
estimates. Over the last year, Trump has claimed he could maintain at
least 1,100 of those jobs in the U.S. But on Monday, the company gave
official notice to Indiana officials that it would start laying off
workers at the factory July 20 and keep slashing staff until about 800
employees remain.
 
"This action follows a thorough evaluation of our manufacturing
operations," wrote Steven Morris, a Carrier manager in Indianapolis, in
a memo to Indiana's department of workforce development, "and is
intended to address the challenges the business faces in a rapidly
changing industry."'
 
Don't worry, wingnuts: I'm sure you'll find a way to be just fine with it!
 
:-)
Carbon <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>: May 25 08:07PM -0400

On 05/25/2017 06:07 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> changing industry."'
 
> Don't worry, wingnuts: I'm sure you'll find a way to be just fine with it!
 
> :-)

They'll just ignore it, like they always do.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com>: May 25 09:32AM -0700

On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 9:57:30 AM UTC-4, MNMikeW wrote:
 
> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html?_r=0
 
> > Unsourced.
 
> Normal NYT "reporting".
 
That's an easy cop-out, isn't it? If sources aren't named, it's
not to be believed, right?
Carbon <nobrac@nospam.tampabay.rr.com>: May 25 08:05PM -0400

On 05/25/2017 12:32 PM, John B. wrote:
 
>> Normal NYT "reporting".
 
> That's an easy cop-out, isn't it? If sources aren't named, it's
> not to be believed, right?

It's perfectly valid as long as you don't care about the truth.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: May 25 03:46PM -0700

<https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/florida-gop-consultant-admits-he-worked-with-guccifer-2-0-analyzing-hacked-data/>
 
'A Florida GOP campaign consultant who runs a blog under a pseudonym
directly contacted the hackers behind the breach of the Democratic
National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee,
and he solicited material from them. The Wall Street Journal reports
that Aaron Nevins set up a Dropbox account specifically for "Guccifer
2.0" to drop files into, and he received 2.5 GB of data from the
Democratic Party breaches—including "get out the vote" strategy for
congressional candidates in Florida.
 
Nevins analyzed the data and posted his analysis on his blog,
HelloFLA.com. Guccifer 2.0 sent a link to the blog to Trump backer Roger
Stone, who was also in communication with the hackers, according to
Stone. Nevins told the Journal that the hackers didn't understand what
they had until he explained its value.
 
Some of the most valuable data, Nevins said, was the Democratic Party's
voter turnout models. "Basically if this was a war, this is the map to
where all the troops are deployed," Nevins told the person or persons
behind the Guccifer 2.0 account. He also told them, "This is probably
worth millions of dollars."
 
Guccifer 2.0 responded via direct message, "Hmmm. ok u owe me a million :)"
 
The DNC breach has been attributed by a variety of means to attackers
tied to Russian intelligence—specifically, to Russia's GRU. Nevins told
the Journal he didn't believe that, but he said that it didn't matter to
him who Guccifer 2.0 was, because "If your interests align, never shut
any doors in politics."'
 
And while it's behind a paywall, here's the original article's link:
 
<https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-alleged-russian-hacker-teamed-up-with-florida-gop-operative-1495724787>
"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com>: May 25 09:29AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 10:11:26 AM UTC-4, Dene wrote:
> of "Taught" as a synonym for being better educated.
 
> He's a troll you blathering idiot. He doesn't give a rat's ass about American politics. He cares only about the argument and with moderate responding to him, he gets plenty of ammunition. Most everybody else has figured out his stupid game. Dare to disagree with him sometime and get back to us.
 
> Bye.
 
Rather than respond to the substance of his post, you and Mike
choose to malign Alan's character. That suggests you have nothing
intelligent to say about Trump telling the Israelis that he "just
got back from the Middle East."
Dene <gdstrue@aol.com>: May 25 09:39AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 8:29:29 AM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
 
> choose to malign Alan's character. That suggests you have nothing
> intelligent to say about Trump telling the Israelis that he "just
> got back from the Middle East."
 
Baker's existence and this supposed story have one thing in common....completely irrelevant.
MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: May 25 12:50PM -0500

John B. wrote:
> choose to malign Alan's character. That suggests you have nothing
> intelligent to say about Trump telling the Israelis that he "just
> got back from the Middle East."
 
Substance of a Baker post? LOL! Wonder if Obama has made it to all 57
states yet.
BK@Onramp.net: May 25 02:08PM -0500

>> got back from the Middle East."
 
>Substance of a Baker post? LOL! Wonder if Obama has made it to all 57
>states yet.
 
LOL. Obama knew better and mispoke. Trump doesn't know better and did
what he does best, shows his ignorance.
MNMikeW <mnmiikkew@aol.com>: May 25 02:37PM -0500

>> states yet.
 
> LOL. Obama knew better and mispoke. Trump doesn't know better and did
> what he does best, shows his ignorance.
 
Riiiiiiiight.
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: May 25 01:13PM -0700

On 2017-05-25 12:37 PM, MNMikeW wrote:
 
>> LOL. Obama knew better and mispoke. Trump doesn't know better and did
>> what he does best, shows his ignorance.
 
> Riiiiiiiight.
 
If you cannot see that Trump is woefully ignorant in many areas...
Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>: May 25 10:41AM -0700

On 2017-05-25 1:26 AM, Bigbird wrote:
 
> <https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/24/greg-gianforte-bodyslams-reporter-ben-jacobs-montana>
 
> Don't take the leftist press's word for it.
 
> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/24/greg-gianforte-fox-news-team-witnesses-gop-house-candidate-body-slam-reporter.html
 
'To be clear, at no point did any of us who witnessed this assault see
Jacobs show any form of physical aggression toward Gianforte, who left
the area after giving statements to local sheriff's deputies.'
"John B." <johnb505@gmail.com>: May 25 09:21AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 10:46:07 AM UTC-4, Dene wrote:
 
> Good article. Typical of FOXNews. Sadly evidence doesn't matter to these wolves. I making a slow journey home to Oregon from Arizona and part of the travel day is listening to the "news." It astounds me that the reports are based on unnamed sources followed by mindless speculation. Tabloid journalism with an obvious liberal bias. Disgusting!
 
> At the heart of this latest drivel, Trump made some phone calls. So what! Did he threaten somebody? Did he bribe somebody? No. He tried to persuade somebody. Since when is that illegal?
 
> In other news. Good foreign trip so far and I really like his budget. 4% unemployment. People need to get back to work state of relying on the nanny state.
 
No evidence was produced in a the very limited
forum of a congressional hearing in which no one
who was privy to any evidence testified. Mueller's
investigation will determine what happened, if
anything, and who was involved.
BK@Onramp.net: May 25 10:34AM -0500

On Wed, 24 May 2017 22:37:13 -0500 (CDT), Moderate
 
>Bwaahaahaa.
 
>I love being right.
About what? That Ben Carson is an idiot? Yup, that's right.
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