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Wednesday, May 24, 2017

"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <iamtj4life@gmail.com>: May 23 02:10PM -0700

If you're white - don't make 'em
 
The comments are an interesting mix of terrible pc, snark and hyperbole. Read the first one....
 
http://www.wweek.com/uncategorized/2017/05/16/kooks-serves-pop-up-breakfast-burritos-with-handmade-tortillas-out-of-a-food-cart-on-cesar-chavez/
JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com>: May 23 02:17PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 5:10:15 PM UTC-4, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior wrote:
> If you're white - don't make 'em
 
> The comments are an interesting mix of terrible pc, snark and hyperbole. Read the first one....
 
> http://www.wweek.com/uncategorized/2017/05/16/kooks-serves-pop-up-breakfast-burritos-with-handmade-tortillas-out-of-a-food-cart-on-cesar-chavez/
 
WTF? The problem with the comments is there is no way I can tell which ones are serious or not.
JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com>: May 23 02:17PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 5:17:14 PM UTC-4, JGibson wrote:
 
> > The comments are an interesting mix of terrible pc, snark and hyperbole. Read the first one....
 
> > http://www.wweek.com/uncategorized/2017/05/16/kooks-serves-pop-up-breakfast-burritos-with-handmade-tortillas-out-of-a-food-cart-on-cesar-chavez/
 
> WTF? The problem with the comments is there is no way I can tell which ones are serious or not.
 
And apparently, it was serious enough to close the business down.
"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <iamtj4life@gmail.com>: May 23 02:25PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 4:17:57 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
 
> > > http://www.wweek.com/uncategorized/2017/05/16/kooks-serves-pop-up-breakfast-burritos-with-handmade-tortillas-out-of-a-food-cart-on-cesar-chavez/
 
> > WTF? The problem with the comments is there is no way I can tell which ones are serious or not.
 
> And apparently, it was serious enough to close the business down.
 
Ayup
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: May 23 03:27PM -0700

Amazingly ignorant first post.
 
She seems to think all Mexican women are poor, simple-minded, and live hand to mouth. Once step from prehistoric living and too ignorant to live without serving tacos to the great white man.
Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com>: May 23 04:11PM -0700

Yeah....I've gotten some flack for my comments on Facebook. This "cultural appropriation", I said, leads to segregation. Even friends of mine are in that too pc group, pushing a list of restaurants to avoid. The absolute stupidest, in my opinion, is the inclusion of Voodoo Donuts on that list...for "religious appropriation"! Because Haitians are being exploited by the name!
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: May 23 04:33PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 4:17:14 PM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
 
> > The comments are an interesting mix of terrible pc, snark and hyperbole. Read the first one....
 
> > http://www.wweek.com/uncategorized/2017/05/16/kooks-serves-pop-up-breakfast-burritos-with-handmade-tortillas-out-of-a-food-cart-on-cesar-chavez/
 
> WTF? The problem with the comments is there is no way I can tell which ones are serious or not.
 
I got from the comments is when a liberal wants 'respect', it's spelled re$pect.
xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: May 23 04:55PM -0700

Apparently it's not without good cause that Portland had a TV series dedicated to lampooning it.
"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <iamtj4life@gmail.com>: May 23 07:05PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 6:11:16 PM UTC-5, Eric Ramon wrote:
> Yeah....I've gotten some flack for my comments on Facebook. This "cultural appropriation", I said, leads to segregation. Even friends of mine are in that too pc group, pushing a list of restaurants to avoid. The absolute stupidest, in my opinion, is the inclusion of Voodoo Donuts on that list...for "religious appropriation"! Because Haitians are being exploited by the name!
 
Oh man....that would be difficult.
 
Do you ever ask them if CA works in reverse? And if so, what should "ethnic cultures" do w/o so they're not corrupted - much less is there an appropriate list of "things we evil Americans" should leave alone?
 
I miss the melting pot
"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <iamtj4life@gmail.com>: May 23 07:07PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 6:55:05 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> Apparently it's not without good cause that Portland had a TV series dedicated to lampooning it.
 
I've heard it said that it was strikingly accurate in general. Perhaps Eric could verify/deny?
 
I dunno - maybe I'm just an asshole (stop nodding god damn it) but this whole walking on eggshells culture......oy
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: May 23 10:22PM -0400

On 5/23/2017 10:07 PM, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior wrote:
>> Apparently it's not without good cause that Portland had a TV series dedicated to lampooning it.
 
> I've heard it said that it was strikingly accurate in general. Perhaps Eric could verify/deny?
 
> I dunno - maybe I'm just an asshole (stop nodding god damn it) but this whole walking on eggshells culture......oy
 
If you're an asshole about this I'm manning the artillery for fucking pc
all up.
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: May 23 10:26PM -0400

On 5/23/2017 10:05 PM, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior wrote:
 
> Oh man....that would be difficult.
 
> Do you ever ask them if CA works in reverse? And if so, what should "ethnic cultures" do w/o so they're not corrupted - much less is there an appropriate list of "things we evil Americans" should leave alone?
 
> I miss the melting pot
 
So by their logic if an eatery isn't owned/staffed by the appropriate
ethnic group it can't exist? FTS!!11!!!1
"Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com>: May 23 11:14PM -0500


> Do you ever ask them if CA works in reverse? And if so, what should
> "ethnic cultures" do w/o so they're not corrupted - much less is there
> an appropriate list of "things we evil Americans" should leave alone?
 
Does this mean Latino and African-American people should be barred from
math and science classes, and not be allowed to pursue classical music? That
they can't use internal combustion engines, and not roast marshmallows?
 
The insanity never seems to stop.
 
--
Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in
overalls and looks like work. -- Thomas Edison
Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com>: May 24 02:01AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 7:05:33 PM UTC-7, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior wrote:
 
> Oh man....that would be difficult.
 
> Do you ever ask them if CA works in reverse? And if so, what should "ethnic cultures" do w/o so they're not corrupted - much less is there an appropriate list of "things we evil Americans" should leave alone?
 
> I miss the melting pot
 
don't know if I can find my facebook comment to quote the thing exactly but my point was this: if blacks can't do hillbilly music there's no "Msybellene" and if whites can't do rhythm and blues there's no "Not Fade Away". In other words, no rock n roll. And what you get is stultifying segregation. For which I was told I don't understand what cultural appropriation is.
 
But you know....I think we all do. It's some kind of b#$%&*^.
Eric Ramon <ramon.eric@gmail.com>: May 24 02:08AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 7:07:42 PM UTC-7, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior wrote:
> > Apparently it's not without good cause that Portland had a TV series dedicated to lampooning it.
 
> I've heard it said that it was strikingly accurate in general. Perhaps Eric could verify/deny?
 
> I dunno - maybe I'm just an asshole (stop nodding god damn it) but this whole walking on eggshells culture......oy
 
yes and no. It shows up in the word "Latinx" which is used instead of Latino/Latina. "Latinx" is "gender neutral". That's the kind of thing they poke fun at on the show.
 
But Portlandia is, of course, a ridiculous exaggeration. It's some New Yorker seeing something and making it super silly.
 
Did I ever write here about my idea of one for New York? I'd call it "New York, New York, New York, the City So Smug About Itself That You Have To Say It Three Times". I'd have a skit about "typical" New Yorkers looking for an apartment, having the real estate agent lock all seven locks after he and the couple enter. Then the husband would look out the window at a brick wall and somebody else's air conditioner and he'd say "ooh, look honey. It's got a view!"
 
Would that be an accurate portrayal of New York? Yes and no, right? Anyway, we do have long lines at the ice cream places that offer salted ice cream but I believe most of the people in line are from the suburbs who've come to sight-see.
CtrlAltDel <altiemcd@aol.com>: May 23 02:41PM

in silence in Londonistan to protest the murder of weak Kaffir stooges.
The Englandistanians have that down to a tee; they silent march after
attacks and strike fear into the enemy they have among them.
 
It's coming. After that, the Englandistanians who aren't Muslim will need
to go through some type of training to figure out what they are doing
wrong and what they can do to stop instigating the Muslims and live
peacefully.
Some dued <theodoreward@gmail.com>: May 23 08:10AM -0700

How come you don't go over there and solve this problem for us all?
"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: May 23 08:24AM -0700

One man can carry only so much ordnance...and bacon.
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: May 23 10:32PM -0400

On 5/23/2017 11:24 AM, Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger wrote:
> One man can carry only so much ordnance...and bacon.
 
Imagine the amount of ammo just to cook the bacon!
CtrlAltDel <altiemcd@aol.com>: May 24 05:16AM

On Tue, 23 May 2017 08:10:26 -0700, Some dued wrote:
 
> How come you don't go over there and solve this problem for us all?
 
The Englandistanian's would cut your throat if you weren't a Catholic.
 
The Englandistanian's would also literally cut your throat if you weren't
Protestant.
 
Now the bitches cower in fear and instead of attacking Muslims and Islam
so that they may survive and breathe air, they will undoubtedly be
inundated with government mandated "stop the hate against Muslims"
training.
 
Latest breaking news on Twitter is that an unbeliever shouted at a Muslim
on the street. Another story being tracked is that a 12 year old girl
gave a Muslim a dirty look. No matter how many unbelievers are sacrificed
to appease sky man, Englandistan will not turn into an island of hate
where Muslims are afraid to live and have to hide in shadows.
CtrlAltDel <altiemcd@aol.com>: May 24 05:05AM

She is a Muslim.
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: May 23 10:01PM -0700

An initial section of a Federalist article from 7 December 2016.
<http://thefederalist.com/2016/12/07/donald-trumps-constant-twitter-battle-media-brilliant-strategy/>
 
Does David Danford accurately describe the situation at the time?
If so, has the situation changed?
 
-----
 
Why Donald Trump's Constant Twitter Battle With The Media
Is A Brilliant Strategy
By David Danford
 
Candidate Donald Trump was fun to watch, but President-Elect
Trump may be even more interesting. A friend that studies
communications agrees: in about 10 years, we'll talk about the
near-constant media "elevator shot" and how Trump revolutionized
presidential communications with social media.
 
But for now, the political and pundit classes are still confused,
unable to break out of their cycle of hysterics and insults.
Meanwhile, Trump continues to change American politics.
 
Trump's seemingly off-the-cuff and thoughtless tweets are no
small part of this fascinating display of political skill. With
140 characters or fewer, Trump plants seeds of thought necessary
to restore republican government.
 
Trump's Tweets Keep Opponents Off-Balance
 
The most obvious tactical gain afforded by Trump's tweets is that
he keeps his political opponents off-balance.
 
Hampered by bias and pride, politicians and pundits foment
another tired cycle of dismay with every passing comment. As
others have pointed out, they are hysterical. They are neither
willing or able to consider whether they may have been wrong
about Trump. The talking heads assume every new comment from
Trump is just a hateful, thoughtless tantrum by a man with tiny
hands and a pea brain.
 
What is more, Trump's comments are like nails on a
chalkboard—--they screech against the previously dominant
political speech codes. The media used to control the message.
Now, they do not. Trump's words drive the media insane because he
says them on Twitter, and because his words are so foreign to
their liberal sensibilities.
 
Trump Maintains Control of the Fight
 
One might understand this best in terms of John Boyd's famous
OODA Loop. Used by military tacticians, the Observe, Orient,
Decide, and Act loop describes the cycle in which opponents
operate during a fight. Whoever can cycle more quickly gains the
initiative and controls the fight. Whoever cycles more slowly
remains off-balance, constantly having to re-observe and
re-orient to circumstances dictated by the enemy.
 
The media cycles more slowly. Trump retains initiative by
constantly feeding their hysteria and confusion with a steady
diet of controversial tweets. Each new tweet grabs their
attention and they restart the process. Like clockwork, every 24
to 48 hours, just as the hysteria is winding down, Trump releases
a new comment to spool the media back up. And all the while Trump
is moving on.
 
With their heads spinning, Trump's opponents cannot see what they
themselves are doing. The media cannot avoid talking about Trump
all of the time, and each tweet drives a wedge between them and
the American people.
 
Trump Tweets What Many Americans Think
 
Instead of considering Trump's words and sentiment, pundits and
politicians delight in what they see as his stupidity and
rashness. They heap scorn on his foolish ideas. As others at the
Federalist have argued, the media cannot hide its "condescension
and unnecessary bias." The problem for them? Trump's ideas are
shared by millions, if not most, of Americans.
 
For instance, when Trump remarked that millions of people likely
voted illegally in the election, the media scolded him. They said
his comments "had no basis in reality" and were "baseless," as if
people care about proof in a tweet.
 
Shockingly, "fact-checking" Trump's claim failed to uncover the
clip of President Obama appearing to assure illegal immigrants
that they are safe to vote because ICE would not be able to find
them if they did. Desperate to protect the Democratic voting bloc
and tactics, the left has determined that everyone should agree
there is no need for voter ID laws. But 4 out of 5 people
disagree, indicating that people actually think it is too easy to
vote illegally. Whether or not there is hard evidence that people
voted illegally in this election, Trump's comments are not
unreasonable to most Americans.
 
In another instance, Trump said people should not be able to burn
the flag without facing consequences. The pundits were shocked
and the political class almost called for revolution. In this
case they recognized what most Americans agree, but still could
not help but scorn on the idea. They said it was nothing but a
bone thrown to Trump's racist, stupid base.
 
Trump's Tweets Condemn the Ruling Class
 
Charles Krauthammer, at least, is starting to get it. Each time
members of the press react (and they cannot help themselves) they
show how disconnected they are from almost 75 percent of
Americans.
 
Largely through social media, Trump is setting the terms of the
debate. He's playing the opposing side like a fiddle. The pundit
and political class are unable to make their own arguments, and
with every new story, they show how detached they are from normal
Americans.
 
The most important aspect of Trump's tweets, however, is the most
subtle. With every passing comment, Trump hints at the
conversation that must be had to restore government of the
people, by the people, and for the people.
 
By keeping his opponents off balance, Trump prompts his opponents
to drive a wedge between themselves and the American people. And
what better way is there to do this than to get the ruling class
to make contrary arguments while looking smug, condescending, and
opposing the common sentiment of the American people?
 
 
[...]
 
--
Michael Press
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: May 23 03:04PM -0700

The more I want to vomit.
 
Read the whole deadspin article today and it is mind boggling...
 
The citizens of the 40th largest media market are on the hook for 750 mill+ in a pure giveaway(it will likely be much more). Wow. Yeah it will be financed through hotel taxes/tourists, but thats 750 mill of lost opportunity cost. Wow.
 
And now they are going to have to use some of the gas tax money to to pay for upkeep and part of it.
 
And Las Vegas gets NOTHING from it. They can charge any rent. They can't charge anything forparking(the raiders get all that). The raiders get ALL the revenue streams from the stadium.
 
I wish the city where I'm buying my house would pay for about half of it, then pay for all the utilities and upkeep....oh and then I'll rent it out.
 
Jesus.
 
And the raiders had NO LEVERAGE. none. Every other city had told them to rsfck off. Frustrating.
unclejr <watsona64@gmail.com>: May 23 09:19PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 5:04:14 PM UTC-5, michael anderson wrote:
 
> I wish the city where I'm buying my house would pay for about half of it, then pay for all the utilities and upkeep....oh and then I'll rent it out.
 
> Jesus.
 
> And the raiders had NO LEVERAGE. none. Every other city had told them to rsfck off. Frustrating.
 
I could understand your concern if: a. you are a Raider fan, or b. you live in Las Vegas.
 
Outside of those two criteria, I don't see how this affects you one way or the other.
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 23 03:50PM

On Tue, 23 May 2017 03:34:42 +0000 (UTC), CtrlAltDel
>might be descended from Caucasian chimps.
 
>Let's get Darkstar in on this and see if he can give us an insight into
>how this was all a scam from the beginning and the gubmint is behind it.
 
It has always been my opinion that the Garden of Eden was located
where the Tigris and Eupharates Rivers flow into the Gulf of Aden. I
have even prepared a paper on that.
 
But there is a difference between 7.2 million years and 6,000 years.
One might explain that by saying we don't know the time of a Biblical
year. But...
 
I have no problem believing that we were a blob of ooze in the ocean
and evolutioned to Adam and Eve ca. 4,000 BC.
 
I understand that neither Christians nor Darwinists agree with me so I
conclude THEY are wrong.
 
Hugh
 
 
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