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Friday, May 26, 2017

Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 25 02:09PM

On Wed, 24 May 2017 16:45:17 -0700 (PDT), xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>I'm trying to parse the hypocrisy out of your poast. You can argue it's repugnant for him to march in the parade but where's the hypocrisy?
 
>TIA
 
A good and honest question...
 
My OPINION is that a representative of supposedly good citizens should
not be seen as public endorsement of such a man.
 
To me representing good citizens while endorsing the worst is
hypocrisy at the 10 level.
 
BoSox not Yanks is not hypocrisy - that's bias. I am biased to the
Yankees. Our 4th grandson will be going to Texas this fall but I have
told him I don't plan to wear a horny t-shirt. He wore a Bama shirt in
Venice and Rome a few months ago with his parents.
 
Hugh
 
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RoddyMcCorley <Roddy.McCorley@verizon.net>: May 25 11:19AM -0400

On 5/24/2017 4:37 PM, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
 
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From the NYT: "He was raised in Cambridge, Mass., becoming a devotee of
the Red Sox at 6, and he is unabashed in his disdain for anything having
to do with that team from the Bronx."
 
"I have my loyalty to the team of my youth," he said in an interview,
calling his tie to the Red Sox a "deep devotion."
 
As far as the parade is concerned, Rivera was released from prison after
serving most of his sentence. I do not believe any of his convictions
were tied directly to any killings. However, I'm not saying he a beacon
of good behavior.
 
DiBlasio is mayor of an entire city that has a substantial PR
population. Tough call either way. I happen to like him.
 
--
False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul
with evil.
 
Pennsylvania - Tá sé difriúil anseo.
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 25 04:41PM

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:19:44 -0400, RoddyMcCorley
>to do with that team from the Bronx."
 
>"I have my loyalty to the team of my youth," he said in an interview,
>calling his tie to the Red Sox a "deep devotion."
 
I have been a Yankee and Bama fan since the late 30s. I was a Celtics
fan when Bill Russell played. He has the same right to choose his
teams.
 
>serving most of his sentence. I do not believe any of his convictions
>were tied directly to any killings. However, I'm not saying he a beacon
>of good behavior.
 
Having completed his punishment does cause some reconsideration of my
opinion. But aren't there any people in the northeast who HAVE NOT
committed crimes for whom parades could be held vice him?
 
>DiBlasio is mayor of an entire city that has a substantial PR
>population. Tough call either way. I happen to like him.
 
I think one should be true to the guiding principles of his life
without regard to PR which requires kissing a bit lower than normal.
But how does PR pertain to his being a Sox fan when Mayor of NY and
refusing to have anything Yankeewise?
 
Hugh
 
 
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Emperor Wonko the Sane <doug@sorensensdomain.net>: May 25 01:33PM -0700

On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 3:37:35 PM UTC-5, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote:
 
> De Blasio is marching in the parade."
 
> That raises the standard for a hypocritical piece of shit. You can
> quote me.
 
It's not hypocritical at all when you understand what team deBlovio is playing for.
 
Doug
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: May 25 12:10PM -0700

I just saw what medicaid reimburses the pharm co. for a month of xyrem(what they actual pay out of taxpayer money): over 12k. for one month.
 
for a drug older than aspirin that costs very little to produce. that they didnt spend any money developing.
 
That's money right out of our paychecks.....jesus.
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: May 25 12:04PM -0700

and headed for a great nba finals.
 
Ummm...not really. There are the warriors....and then there is a BIG gap between everyone else.
 
The warriors are SIGNIFICANT faves to beat cleveland. -300 type faves.
 
this is not an evenly matched series. Is there a path for the cavs to win? perhaps...maybe? But it would be an upset for sure....and I certainly dont expect it.
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 25 01:58PM

On Wed, 24 May 2017 13:23:55 -0700 (PDT), JGibson
 
>He is real and wrote the letter to the editor in 2009. It appears to be "updated" to change a few things (congress vs. president; the last several sentences tacked on).
 
I think the letter was too limited - but I chose to quote vice my
opinion.
 
I'll admit I am not usually exposed to all levels of people. But lack
of earned income seems NEVER to be a barrier to owning a better cell
phone than I have (Samsung Note 4).
 
If you want to see gold teeth go to any Kroger or Wal-Mart and look
poorly dressed people in the mouth.
 
Some wear clothes from Sam's Not Quite Worn-out Store but their gold
jewelry cost more than my Rolex.
 
Seems to me that should more rare and less general. But the rare part
is that I believe we ought to earn what we get.
 
Hugh
 
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dotslashderek@gmail.com: May 25 08:23AM -0700

Holy crap, Hugh and I are rocking the same phone.
 
Lol. Cheers.
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 25 04:23PM

On Thu, 25 May 2017 08:23:50 -0700 (PDT), dotslashderek@gmail.com
wrote:
 
>Holy crap, Hugh and I are rocking the same phone.
 
>Lol. Cheers.
 
Actually it's a lot more phone than I need - about 100 apps and I use
10.
 
Hugh
 
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dotslashderek@gmail.com: May 25 10:20AM -0700

That's pretty universal, hugh. It's doable but they certainly don't provide a nice easy route for pulling off a lot of the bloatware they pre-install.
 
Cheers.
xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: May 25 10:25AM -0700

> That's pretty universal, hugh. It's doable but they certainly don't provide a nice easy route for pulling off a lot of the bloatware they pre-install.
 
> Cheers.
 
iphone is the same way. Not in number of apps but their size. Garageband comes preinstalled on iPhones and it's 1.37 gigabytes right out of the box!
 
Most people do what I do, create a folder named "Apple crap" or something like that, and drag them all into it.
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 25 06:52PM

On Thu, 25 May 2017 10:25:45 -0700 (PDT), xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
 
>> Cheers.
 
>iphone is the same way. Not in number of apps but their size. Garageband comes preinstalled on iPhones and it's 1.37 gigabytes right out of the box!
 
>Most people do what I do, create a folder named "Apple crap" or something like that, and drag them all into it.
 
I had a iPhone before this one - a lot fewer apps. A Jitterbug might
be all I really need except for the family I carry on the service.
 
I'll ask my son if the crap folder can be done on Samsung. I be
thankin' ye fer thu thot.
 
Hugh
 
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michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: May 25 09:08AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 8:23:25 AM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
> > the fourth and eighth picks from 2005 as well, as well as *four* picks
> > from 2003.
 
> I almost lost you before I realized you meant the 3rd pick from 2005 instead of the 4th pick. Deron Williams was picked 1 spot ahead of Chris Paul. That's definitely a lot of should-be-talent they have.
 
well most of them panned out...obviously williams did, but Kyrie was an obvious hit. Tristan Thompson became a fairly decent product for what his potential was.
 
Looking back to 2005 Deron Williams had some very good years...obviously not with the cavs, but he still produced at a high level for a period in the earlier part of his career(and the cavs didnt have to give anything for him anyways).
 
Of course Love was a bigtime positive hit(for another time and now producing for the cavs)
 
And lebron of course...not that that was a 'good' pick or anything.
 
Anthony bennett was a number 1. No longer with the team and he sucked of course, but even though he was a number 1 nobody really expected a lot. sounds crazy for a 1 but thats what it was that year.
JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com>: May 25 09:11AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 12:08:53 PM UTC-4, michael anderson wrote:
> > > from 2003.
 
> > I almost lost you before I realized you meant the 3rd pick from 2005 instead of the 4th pick. Deron Williams was picked 1 spot ahead of Chris Paul. That's definitely a lot of should-be-talent they have.
 
> well most of them panned out...obviously williams did, but Kyrie was an obvious hit. Tristan Thompson became a fairly decent product for what his potential was.
 
Tristan Thompson is ok, but Klay Thompson and Kawhi Leonard were both taken later in that same draft. And that's also where Derrick Williams was #2 overall. Obviously, Irving at #1 has panned out.
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: May 25 10:03AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 11:11:35 AM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
 
> > > I almost lost you before I realized you meant the 3rd pick from 2005 instead of the 4th pick. Deron Williams was picked 1 spot ahead of Chris Paul. That's definitely a lot of should-be-talent they have.
 
> > well most of them panned out...obviously williams did, but Kyrie was an obvious hit. Tristan Thompson became a fairly decent product for what his potential was.
 
> Tristan Thompson is ok, but Klay Thompson and Kawhi Leonard were both taken later in that same draft.
 
and so were ~20some other guys in the first round, most of whom are duds and not even as good as TT. Almost half the teams in the league can say "well things didn't work as well because we passed on leonard to take our guy at number.....shoulda take leonard"
 
so Im never a big fan of that sort of reasoning. Yeah they could have taken leonard...they also could have taken jan vesely, jimmer fredette, alec burks, Chris Singleton, etc
 
Now in a *few* cases you can do that with players/teams. You can obviously look at detroit and see the 3 other guys they could have gotten instead of Darko because that was a pick they had and everyone knew who the next picks were going to be and what the obvious choice was. But just randomly looking at a draft(in football too) and finding one stud who went later? It's just of little value....
 
after all 31 teams passed on a guy named Tom brady time after time after time.....about the same number passed on manu and tony parker.
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: May 25 08:28AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 8:50:21 AM UTC-5, JGibson wrote:
 
> > Read the whole deadspin article today and it is mind boggling...
 
> > The citizens of the 40th largest media market
 
> This part of the criticism I don't really get. 32 teams - if they dip into the 40s, it doesn't seem too bad to me. Besides, the NFL already has teams in lesser markets - New Orleans at #50 and Buffalo at #53.
 
true...but note that the teams in lesser markets(NO, buffalo, GB most obvious exception) have a history of rabid and/or very committed fan bases where the team is very much part of the local culture.
 
I doubt that Vegas is going to have that.
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: May 25 08:30AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 8:17:24 AM UTC-5, dnrapp wrote:
 
> > Jesus.
 
> > And the raiders had NO LEVERAGE. none. Every other city had told them to rsfck off. Frustrating.
 
> The city will get the $750 million back it the money spent by the 15-20k people who will come into Vegas for games and events and spend $200-300 a person around the city while they are there.
 
lmao....there is no way tens of thousands of people are going to roll into vegas and spend money around the city for games that otherwise wouldn't be in vegas.
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: May 25 09:02AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 10:30:09 AM UTC-5, michael anderson wrote:
 
> > > And the raiders had NO LEVERAGE. none. Every other city had told them to rsfck off. Frustrating.
 
> > The city will get the $750 million back it the money spent by the 15-20k people who will come into Vegas for games and events and spend $200-300 a person around the city while they are there.
 
> lmao....there is no way tens of thousands of people are going to roll into vegas and spend money around the city for games that otherwise wouldn't be in vegas.
 
what they are going to get is a small % of the locals to come and a small % of the people who are already in vegas to come. Will that be enough to fill the stadium? Probably....at least enough to sell the tickets(a lot will probably go unused)...
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 25 02:54PM

"Pat Dye isn't backing down from his belief Auburn should move to the
SEC East. Last week, the former Auburn coach said Auburn and Missouri
should trade places in the SEC East and West divisions."
 
Hugh: Good on ye, Coach.
 
"I'm fixing to make a statement that won't be a popular statement, I
guarantee you," Dye said. "I'd rather see Auburn in the East than us
play Alabama every year. I know the Iron Bowl, (and) I'm not the least
bit afraid of Auburn playing Alabama. We can play them on a rotating
basis like everyone else."
 
Hugh: I think every state should have 2 major teams that play each
other every year for the state championship (or more). But Bama and
Auburn fans need to get rid of the hate.
 
Of course Coach saying Cow U. is not afraid to play Bama is what I
would say after going one-on-one with LeBron James or Genady Golovkin
(if I survived).
 
Andrew probably is not a-moo-sed, but he has his turn.
 
Hugh
 
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Some dued <theodoreward@gmail.com>: May 25 04:56AM -0700

Who's to say what is rsfcingly stupid?
 
"Geology as a profession has struggled with what to do with young-Earth creationists, whose beliefs are contradicted by literal mountains of scientific evidence. Shut them down, and you get cries of censorship—like this lawsuit."
 
A Creationist Sues the Grand Canyon for Religious Discrimination
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/05/grand-canyon-creationism/526467/
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 25 02:19PM

On Thu, 25 May 2017 04:56:32 -0700 (PDT), Some dued
 
>Who's to say what is rsfcingly stupid?
 
I will - and it doesn't depend on your vote.
 
Hugh
 
 
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Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 25 02:12PM

On Wed, 24 May 2017 17:21:33 -0700 (PDT), xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>Just because Biden's out of office doesn't mean they have to give up their schtick.
 
I agree - but I wonder if Biden or Obama could show their face without
mooning.
 
Hugh
 
 
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Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 25 12:48PM

"Cannabidiol slashes seizures in kids with rare epilepsy, study finds
CNN - ?15 hours ago?
(CNN) Cannabidiol, which is found in marijuana plants, reduced the
number of convulsive seizures in children with a severe and often
fatal epilepsy disorder, according to research published Wednesday in
the New England Journal of Medicine."
 
Seems to me it's Dumb Defecation not to approve The Weed by
prescription for specific medical problems that probably should have
approval by the AMA.
 
If talking to your politician you may substitute a more understandable
term for "Dumb Defecation" so he will understand.
 
Hugh
 
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Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 25 12:19PM

"Donald Trump's presidency is taking a physical and psychological toll
on his opponents.
 
"According to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll, the controversies
surrounding the president are making a majority of Democrats anxious,
nervous about their own well being and feeling sad or hopeless."
 
Although your methods are not approved by a majority, Bravo Zulu for
the quoted results above.
 
Hugh
 
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"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: May 25 03:37AM -0700

He didn't stir.
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