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Friday, May 26, 2017

Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: May 25 05:13PM -0700

<http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/05/25/manchester-bomber-repeatedly-reported-authorities-friends-community/>
 
Only if the community of Islam reports dangerous people---
who are almost always young males---can we stay ahead of
and defeat ideological murderers in our midst.
 
Police in England are culpable in the Manchester bombing.
 
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Michael Press
irishranger317@gmail.com: May 24 10:45PM -0700

On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 10:57:19 PM UTC-4, CtrlAltDel wrote:
 
> Why in the hell would you really hope it wasn't a bomb that killed 19 and
> counting? Is it more satisfying to you when a lot of people die and it
> isn't Baptists or Methodists or those damn Catholics doing it?
 
You must have the IQ of a door knob. It was cowardly muslim terrorists targeting a bunch of mostly kids.
Their sin? They weren't muslims. Pull your head out of your left wing arse.
 
Irish Mike
Some dued <theodoreward@gmail.com>: May 25 04:26AM -0700

Yeah you stupid moonbat!
dotslashderek@gmail.com: May 25 08:26AM -0700

Lol.
 
I wonder if IR was a big fan of the colbert report - "keep telling it like it is, colbert!".
 
Moonbat altie. Rsfc gold!
 
Cheers.
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: May 25 02:59PM -0700

In article <17e61f19-6551-4095-b93e-384d26d6e8c7@googlegroups.com>,
 
> You must have the IQ of a door knob. It was cowardly muslim terrorists targeting a bunch of mostly kids.
> Their sin? They weren't muslims. Pull your head out of your left wing arse.
 
> Irish Mike
 
Whoa!
 
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Michael Press
Some dued <theodoreward@gmail.com>: May 25 04:36AM -0700

Is this just a clever campaign strategy?
 
Fox News crew 'watched in disbelief' as Montana's Greg Gianforte 'slammed' and 'punched' reporter
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/05/25/fox-news-crew-watched-in-disbelief-as-gianforte-slammed-and-punched-reporter/
"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <iamtj4life@gmail.com>: May 25 05:05AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 6:36:32 AM UTC-5, Some dued wrote:
> Is this just a clever campaign strategy?
 
> Fox News crew 'watched in disbelief' as Montana's Greg Gianforte 'slammed' and 'punched' reporter
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/05/25/fox-news-crew-watched-in-disbelief-as-gianforte-slammed-and-punched-reporter/
 
That was a dumb thing to do - as obnoxious as the press is/can be, being physical with them crosses a line
 
Here's a take from one of the Fox reporters there - she minces no words
 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/24/greg-gianforte-fox-news-team-witnesses-gop-house-candidate-body-slam-reporter.html
Some dued <theodoreward@gmail.com>: May 25 05:12AM -0700

I'm serious though about wondering if this will actually help his campaign in a place like Montana. Probably not, but maybe?
"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <iamtj4life@gmail.com>: May 25 05:29AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 7:12:43 AM UTC-5, Some dued wrote:
> I'm serious though about wondering if this will actually help his campaign in a place like Montana. Probably not, but maybe?
 
Might - as I understand it, the primary is tomorrow and the vast majority of votes are mail in - so likely a wash.
 
Frankly, this might play well in most any state depending on party and new source - I mean do you think it'd hurt a Dem candidate in Cali if it was a Fox reporter?
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 25 02:18PM

On Thu, 25 May 2017 05:05:50 -0700 (PDT), "The Cheesehusker, Trade
 
>> Fox News crew 'watched in disbelief' as Montana's Greg Gianforte 'slammed' and 'punched' reporter
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/05/25/fox-news-crew-watched-in-disbelief-as-gianforte-slammed-and-punched-reporter/
 
>That was a dumb thing to do - as obnoxious as the press is/can be, being physical with them crosses a line
 
It crosses a line that I have recommended for some time.
 
In my view he was assaulted by the media and defended himself. If we
were as American as we once were the media would not commit such
reprehensible acts.
 
I wish Mexico would lower their immigration standards so they could
accept liberals.
 
Hugh
 
 
 
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dotslashderek@gmail.com: May 25 08:22AM -0700

I think it would hurt a dem candidate in cali, ch.
 
Surely you don't think there is right / left equivalence around the whole "war on media" thing? Regarding the "mainstream media" as the enemy seems like a strictly right winger thing, to me (been that way for decades, although it's really ramped up recently).
 
The bigger issue is that the guy clearly has an issue with impulse control, anyhow. I'd hope that'd be what folks in any state would take away, instead of focusing on the media aspect - today he's body slamming a reporter, tomorrow he's choking out a ref at his kiddos soccer game.
 
Cheers.
"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <iamtj4life@gmail.com>: May 25 08:31AM -0700

> I think it would hurt a dem candidate in cali, ch.
 
> Surely you don't think there is right / left equivalence around the whole "war on media" thing? Regarding the "mainstream media" as the enemy seems like a strictly right winger thing, to me (been that way for decades, although it's really ramped up recently).
 
Really? Fox seems to bear more than a bit of venom from the left
 
> The bigger issue is that the guy clearly has an issue with impulse control, anyhow. I'd hope that'd be what folks in any state would take away, instead of focusing on the media aspect - today he's body slamming a reporter, tomorrow he's choking out a ref at his kiddos soccer game.
 
no dispute
 
And I'm hopeful perhaps this will ton down some of the rhetoric from *both* sides calling for violence/revolution/etc etc etc - there's been FAR too much
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 25 04:51PM

On Thu, 25 May 2017 08:22:16 -0700 (PDT), dotslashderek@gmail.com
wrote:
 
>The bigger issue is that the guy clearly has an issue with impulse control,=
> anyhow.
 
More accurately he has a problem with being assaulted by the media.
His rights were abused by persistence and pushing the mike in his
face.
 
Back to absurd projections...
 
>today he's body slamming a reporter, =
>tomorrow he's choking out a ref at his kiddos soccer game.
 
Hugh
 
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dotslashderek@gmail.com: May 25 10:18AM -0700

Hugh, when wingers won't even believe a fox news reporter who witnessed the event and sharply disputes the talking points you just pulled straight out of the guy's damage control post assault press release... what's the point?
 
You're always going to be able to find some nutty blogger that'll echo how you wish things happened, how you'd like the world to be. If that's enough to convince you, so be it - but there's no point in pretending you're arguing about, you know, reality.
 
Cheers.
Futbol Phan <sgzphd@gmail.com>: May 25 10:33AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 10:31:09 AM UTC-5, The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior wrote:
 
> And I'm hopeful perhaps this will ton down some of the rhetoric from *both* sides calling for violence/revolution/etc etc etc - there's been FAR too much
 
Seems unlikely when you get reactions like this:
 
"We all make mistakes," said Ohio GOP Rep. Steve Stivers, the chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee.
 
IOW, no big deal, nothing to see here, vote for the thug.
"The Cheesehusker, Trade Warrior" <iamtj4life@gmail.com>: May 25 10:37AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 12:33:31 PM UTC-5, Futbol Phan wrote:
 
> Seems unlikely when you get reactions like this:
 
> "We all make mistakes," said Ohio GOP Rep. Steve Stivers, the chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee.
 
> IOW, no big deal, nothing to see here, vote for the thug.
 
Amazing what people will excuse when it's on "their" side
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: May 25 10:48AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 12:33:31 PM UTC-5, Futbol Phan wrote:
 
> Seems unlikely when you get reactions like this:
 
> "We all make mistakes," said Ohio GOP Rep. Steve Stivers, the chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee.
 
> IOW, no big deal, nothing to see here, vote for the thug.
 
eh...it's for the people of montana to decide if it's a disqualifying factor or not. Lets just see who wins :)
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: May 25 10:51AM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 12:48:29 PM UTC-5, michael anderson wrote:
 
> > "We all make mistakes," said Ohio GOP Rep. Steve Stivers, the chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee.
 
> > IOW, no big deal, nothing to see here, vote for the thug.
 
> eh...it's for the people of montana to decide if it's a disqualifying factor or not. Lets just see who wins :)
 
Im personally enjoying watching the democrats spend 8 figures on individual house seats to lose them anyways.....is this guy they are getting behind(the bernie sanders wannaba with the guitar) unemployed like the guy in georgia they threw 15 million dollars down the drain at? Or does he actually have a real job?
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 25 07:01PM

On Thu, 25 May 2017 10:18:55 -0700 (PDT), dotslashderek@gmail.com
wrote:
 
>Hugh, when wingers won't even believe a fox news reporter who witnessed the event and sharply disputes the talking points you just pulled straight out of the guy's damage control post assault press release... what's the point?
 
First of all that media assault is often shown on TV and nothing is
done about it. It's not just one instance. Beating the crap out of
someone usurping your rights might not change anything permanently but
we can solve one problem at a time.
 
>You're always going to be able to find some nutty blogger that'll echo how you wish things happened, how you'd like the world to be. If that's enough to convince you, so be it - but there's no point in pretending you're arguing about, you know, reality.
 
Fortunately I am seldom, if ever, in areas of what you call reality.
So I can pursue my own reality.
 
Hugh
 
 
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Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 25 07:02PM

On Thu, 25 May 2017 10:37:26 -0700 (PDT), "The Cheesehusker, Trade
 
>Amazing what people will excuse when it's on "their" side
 
I would have congratulated Obama for flattening the media man if he
had cause and been man enough to do it.
 
Hugh
 
 
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Emperor Wonko the Sane <doug@sorensensdomain.net>: May 25 01:30PM -0700

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 6:36:32 AM UTC-5, Some dued wrote:
> Is this just a clever campaign strategy?
 
> Fox News crew 'watched in disbelief' as Montana's Greg Gianforte 'slammed' and 'punched' reporter
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/05/25/fox-news-crew-watched-in-disbelief-as-gianforte-slammed-and-punched-reporter/
 
Reading the details of the story, it sounds like the reporter was over-the-top rude and it set the candidate off. I'm not defending the candidate's actions, but that doesn't excuse the reporter barging into a private room being set up for another interview, sticking his recorder in the guy's face and refusing to leave when asked. repeatedly.
 
If journalists wonder about the lack of civility in politics, they need only find a mirror to see a large part of it.
 
Doug
xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: May 25 02:47PM -0700

So when a Breitbart operator rudely accosted Rep Bob Etheridge in 2010, Etheridge's reaction was justified, even restrained, right?
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 25 01:38PM

On Wed, 24 May 2017 15:59:59 -0400, Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>
wrote:
 
>humans were the result. Since time is irrelevant to a god, the 'shazam'
>could be the evolutionary spark that set it in motion and in millions of
>years of our time that to the supernatural was but an instant.
 
My feet are not in concrete on the infallibility of the Bible. A
number of Chapters were excluded when human beings decided which
should be excluded in our best interests.
 
I would have no problem accepting evolution that led to Adam and Eve
being first. But, by my faith, I will belive that they were the first
"humans" created by God.
 
The problem is two-fold... (1) Science has not yet been able to prove
yea or nea - but will (2) People will low IQ can't comprehend the
obvious - it didn't happen by an accident. If it did they could create
life by striking 2 rocks together.
 
Hugh
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: May 25 01:58PM -0700

In article <5925e3da.16239750@news.eternal-september.org>,
> first creation of man.
 
> I do, too, but I rationalize that they may be the first human
> departure from evolution.
 
I figure apes are descended from humans.
 
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Michael Press
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: May 25 02:31PM -0700

In article <og4ohe$v0g$2@dont-email.me>,
> humans were the result. Since time is irrelevant to a god, the 'shazam'
> could be the evolutionary spark that set it in motion and in millions of
> years of our time that to the supernatural was but an instant.
 
Stripping interpretation from the laws of physics as we frame
them, wall clock time gives us no grasp on what transpires. What
matters is a thing called the invariant line element. It is a
function of 3 dimensional distance and wall clock time. Forget
about light traveling through space. That is a handy crutch. In
fact we have never observed light traveling through space. Each
electromagnetic transition is a transition of two systems and the
invariant line element between the transitions in the two systems
is zero. They are the same event. When an EM transition occurs in
your retina it is always coupled with a transition in another
system. That system can be part of Arcturus or that honey down
the beach---the invariant distance between them is zero in both
cases.
 
The laws of electro-magnetism do not depend on a direction for
wall clock time. Try as they might, and they tried mightily,
physicists cannot derive a preferred direction for wall clock
time. In fact, wall clock time running in both directions has not
led to contradiction or physically impossible events. What does
lead to contradiction of physical reality is the notion that we
can observe light. Young Albert Einstein made this observation
and that led him to formulating the special theory of relativity.
 
Look up Indira's Web.
 
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