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Tuesday, May 9, 2017

"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: May 09 04:39PM -0700

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xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: May 09 04:58PM -0700

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He's lucky to still be alive! He better watch his back!
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: May 09 06:15PM -0700

I'm sure he's on the Clinton hit list.
xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: May 09 06:21PM -0700

> I'm sure he's on the Clinton hit list.
 
Now he's going to have to look over BOTH shoulders!
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: May 09 02:27PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 2:52:06 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 3:40:26 PM UTC-4, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Saw the hardtop in the wild today. Meh.
 
> You mean the coupe? I don't think there's a hardtop version of the ND
 
I saw a new miata can be had less than 25k....is it possible I just spent an *extra* 50k for a little badge on the front of my car?
GrtArtiste <nineorbs@yahoo.com>: May 09 05:53PM -0400

On 5/9/2017 5:27 PM, michael anderson wrote:
>>> Saw the hardtop in the wild today. Meh.
 
>> You mean the coupe? I don't think there's a hardtop version of the ND
 
> I saw a new miata can be had less than 25k....is it possible I just spent an *extra* 50k for a little badge on the front of my car?
 
Yeah...it's possible.
 
GrtArtiste
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: May 09 03:20PM -0700

Yeah the coupe. Isn't it a targa, effectively a hardtop?
xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>: May 09 04:58PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 5:27:47 PM UTC-4, michael anderson wrote:
> > > Saw the hardtop in the wild today. Meh.
 
> > You mean the coupe? I don't think there's a hardtop version of the ND
 
> I saw a new miata can be had less than 25k....is it possible I just spent an *extra* 50k for a little badge on the front of my car?
 
No you're also paying for the opportunity to pay $thousands per year to keep it running. I bet they have really good coffee in the customer lounge though!
 
I had a pla with a Boxster who got to put in a new transmission at 30K miles. Of course his went while on a cross-country road trip. My anecdote is definitive data!
 
Kidding aside the main value you're paying for IMO is customization. You were able to order your car just how you want it. Porsche is known for offering nearly unlimited customization (so is MINI so you still could have saved big if that was what you were after). Miatas OTOH are mass produced in a limited number of colors and configurations and you can pick from the 2-3 different combinations on dealer lots. Don't ask about ordering, but trading may be possible. When I bought mine I wanted a specific interior and exterior color combination... power hard top, navy blue exterior, tan leather interior, and manual transmission. My dealer had to trade with one in another state to find one. If I had wanted a black interior and automatic transmission (sad! but true) I could picked from any of dozens on local dealer lots and probably got a better deal too.
michael anderson <mianderson79@gmail.com>: May 09 06:09PM -0700

Well they didn't even have the combo i really wanted- I wanted a tan seat color but due to glare/safety concerns they nixed that. I could have got tan but would have come with black with it and I wanted just one color. So went with saddle brown.
 
I had to order because all the ones on the lot in the states close to me had a bunch of options I didn't want...exhaust packages, sports packages, etc...
 
So I only added maybe 8k in options. Most people add a lot more apparently. The 3200 dollar pdk was one. I'd have to look at the order sheet again.
 
But damn I hope my 75k coupe is better than a 25k car....
"فهد الزعبى" <falzby391@gmail.com>: May 09 03:01PM -0700

"Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger" <damonhynes@gmail.com>: May 09 05:24PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 5:02:00 PM UTC-5, فهد الزعبى wrote:
> On Thursday, November 1, 2012 at 10:26:00 AM UTC+2, aliwa...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, October 9, 2007 2:22:03 PM UTC-7, سكساوي عربي wrote:
> > > http://groups.google.com/group/aflam_snma
 
Has to be ISILS sending coded messages. So lone, Eiffel Tower!
Ken Olson <kolson@freedomnet.org>: May 09 08:39PM -0400

On 5/9/2017 8:24 PM, Damon Hynes, Cyclone Ranger wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, October 9, 2007 2:22:03 PM UTC-7, سكساوي عربي wrote:
>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/aflam_snma
 
> Has to be ISILS sending coded messages. So lone, Eiffel Tower!
 
This looks like someone dunked a chicken's feet in an ink well and then
let the chicken run around on the paper.
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: May 09 04:55PM -0700

HE STOLE ELECTION FROM OUR QUEEN!!
 
<comey fired>
 
 
OMG!! TRUMP FIRED COMEY.
 
DICTATOR!!
 
GUILTY!!! SOMETHING TO HIDE!!!
Futbol Phan <sgzphd@gmail.com>: May 09 03:09PM -0700

I knew he was dead meat once he said that the possibility that he had help elect Dolt 45 made him 'slightly nauseous'.
 
But it sounds like better days are ahead for us:
 
"The F.B.I. is one of our nation's most cherished and respected institutions and today will mark a new beginning for our crown jewel of law enforcement," Mr. Trump said in the statement.
"Con Reeder, unhyphenated American" <constance@duxmail.com>: May 09 05:50PM -0500

> I knew he was dead meat once he said that the possibility that he had help elect Dolt 45 made him 'slightly nauseous'.
 
> But it sounds like better days are ahead for us:
 
> ???The F.B.I. is one of our nation???s most cherished and respected institutions and today will mark a new beginning for our crown jewel of law enforcement,??? Mr. Trump said in the statement.
 
Director Giuliani?
 
 
--
Making the simple complex, that is easy -- anyone can do that.
But to make the complex simple, awesomely simple, that is
true creativity. -- Charles Mingus
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: May 09 03:39PM -0700

Given the opportunity to watch this movie or drill your eyes out with salted rusty corkscrews; remember, salt doesn't sting for long.
 
Thankfully, I fell asleep numerous times and missed a good bit of this torture fest.
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: May 09 03:24PM -0700

At a crappy airport bar in DC and there's a loud phone talker unintentionally regaling all of us with his phenomenal knowledge of commercial HVAC units, as well as how crappy his work life is.
Emperor Wonko the Sane <doug@sorensensdomain.net>: May 09 01:20PM -0700


> There is a small minority telling the truth. Happy coincidence - I like what they have to say.
 
> Lol. I like the idea of perpetual motion. Luckily, there are a couple morons out there telling me I can have it. And the (vast) majority who say it can't possibly work? Clearly doing it for the grant money.
 
> Cheers.
 
You are right, the vast majority of scientists aren't lying, they just aren't saying what the climate alarmists claim they are saying. Oreske's and Cook's papers on which the 97% nonsense is based have been ripped to shreds. Using Cook's data, the number of papers that claim that the last two hundred years of climate change is nearly all human induced and that it will lead to catastrophe is more like 0.6%.
 
Nearly everyone agrees that CO2 is a greenhouse gas and that humans are emitting a lot of it. The argument is over how sensitive the climate is to that forcing. Even the IPCC has said that they cannot determine that sensitivity with any level of confidence.
 
And then we have the undeniable fact that, if every country lived up to their Paris Convention obligations, it will have a trivial impact on climate according to the climate models the alarmists are all relying on.
 
Doug
irishranger317@gmail.com: May 09 01:48PM -0700

On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 5:42:39 PM UTC-4, Michael Press wrote:
> <http://tinyurl.com/l9pxxgo>
 
> --
> Michael Press
 
Global Warming is the biggest bullshit scam ever pulled on the American people and makes Bernie Madoff look like a crooked Girl Scout selling over priced cookies. Al Gore made $hundreds of millions from this scam. He lived in a huge mansion, drove a convoy of gas-guzzling SUVs and flew around the country in a private jet telling gullible idiots that they needed to turn off their air conditioners, sell their cars and ride bicycles.
 
Irish Mike
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: May 09 02:36PM -0700

In article <d2f81c7a-b314-4a6e-b626-6d93a1024c7a@googlegroups.com>,
 
> Nearly everyone agrees that CO2 is a greenhouse gas
 
"Greenhouse gas" is ludicrous.
A greenhouse has a lid on it.
The atmosphere does not.
Science by analogy. Pffft!
 
--
Michael Press
dotslashderek@gmail.com: May 09 03:23PM -0700

I didn't say anything about 97% doug. The only time I see that number is from folks that seem to believe if it's not 97% it means we really don't have any consensus.
 
Interesting examination of that number:
 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/uhenergy/2016/12/14/fact-checking-the-97-consensus-on-anthropogenic-climate-change/#5175ebe61157
 
Prolly depends on how you phrase the question. If you just ask "are humans causing the planet to warm", I bet you get over 90%.
 
If you ask "are we causing the planet to warm in a way that's alarming", it'll be quite a bit lower.
 
If you just make it "should we be alarmed about warming" it probably goes up a bit.
 
I think folks on the right latched onto 97% because it's faux precision and a super high bar that's easy to dispute.
 
Harder to dispute "most scientists who specialize in this area believe man is contributing to climate change and that it's a big deal". Because, you know, that's just true - most do. Much lower bar.
 
Oh, and your 0.6% is way further off than the 97% figure. Check the last graph on the link above.
 
Cheers.
Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan): May 09 09:07PM

On Tue, 9 May 2017 12:52:40 -0700 (PDT), xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
>> xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
 
>> Like the one where the woman was convicted of laughing?
 
>No, that one's true.
 
Charged only with laughing would be like charging John Wilkes Booth or
Bob Ford for having a gun.
 
Hugh
 
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Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: May 09 02:34PM -0700

In article <b58f8d14-c371-47cf-984d-f357dbd0ca55@googlegroups.com>,
> > xyzzy <xyzzy.dude@gmail.com> wrote:
 
> > Like the one where the woman was convicted of laughing?
 
> No, that one's true.
 
No, it is not and proved so.
Charge sheet and Jury decision say so.
 
--
Michael Press
Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net>: May 09 02:29PM -0700

President Trump wants to meet with every despot
in the world. I think of it as those guys being
sent to the principal's office for a little chat.
Who do we have so far? NK, "Palestine", Russia?
 
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Michael Press
"the_andrew_smith@yahoo.com" <agavinsmith@gmail.com>: May 09 02:39AM -0700

https://wikileaks.org/cia-france-elections-2012/
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