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Friday, May 12, 2017

tmc1982@gmail.com: May 11 06:33PM -0700

https://twitter.com/USATODAY/status/862842281279324160
 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/redsox/2017/05/11/big-papi-blasts-former-red-sox-manager-bobby-valentine-new-book/101573802/
 
When David Ortiz was playing with the Boston Red Sox, it was a golden time in the team's history. They won two World Series and won at least 90 games nine times.
 
The worst season in that stretch was 2012. They won 69 games and finished in last place in the American League East.
 
It was a year the team wanted to start over. In September 2011, they were ahead of the Tampa Bay Rays by nine games for the wild card, but lost 18 of their final 24 games to miss the playoffs. They fired manager Terry Francona and hired Bobby Valentine.
 
This terrible season, according to Ortz's new book Papi: My Story written by Ortiz with former Boston Globe columnist Michael Holley, was Valentine's fault. Ortiz says from spring training the team could tell they were in for a difficult year. From an excerpt on SI.com:
 
The drama began almost immediately in spring training. I remember fighting the thought, very early, We're going to have an absolutely terrible year.
 
It was all about him in the spring. It was as if he wanted to prove how smart he was by running us through all these drills he'd used while managing in Japan, drills we had never done before. Bobby was in his own bubble, and I just wanted to get him out of it and tell him, "F--- you."
 
He asked for a lot of changes, including some that were completely unnecessary. One of the more ridiculous ones was having players hit grounders to each other. I thought that was funny, especially for me. The Red Sox weren't paying me to hit grounders; I was there to hit balls to the moon.
 
The problem was not that his drills were new. The bigger issue was how he expected players who had been in the big leagues a long time to immediately do things his way without any missteps. There had been a lot of conversations about our team the year before and how our lack of accountability led to our September collapse. Maybe Bobby was told to come in and boss around full-grown men. Maybe the Red Sox wanted to hire a daddy, not a manager.
 
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I was competitive enough to think that we could win a bunch of games despite Bobby's ego. It didn't take long for me to realize I'd been too optimistic. And when I say not long, I mean the first series of the season. We opened in Detroit and were swept by the Tigers. It was impossible to ignore the comments from my teammates about Bobby's managing, how he made decisions that didn't make sense and how generally clueless and distant he was.
 
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Without a doubt, it was the worst season of my career. The simplest way I can put it is that he didn't treat people well. He didn't get a chance to hire all his own coaches, and I think he held it against the coaches themselves. He even called a meeting, with the entire team, and accused his coaches of backstabbing him.
 
Eventually, in July, we all collapsed.
 
Valentine, who is now the athletic director for Sacred Heart University in Fairfield, Conn., was a guest on the CBS radio show Tiki and Tierney Thursday.
 
When asked if he had read what Ortiz had written about him, Valentine said, "Huh? No, what happened? Oh God, David Ortiz, no I haven't. I thought David retired."
 
The hosts told Valentine that Ortiz had written a book and Valentine responded, "Nice! And I'm in it? Wow, all right!"
 
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The hosts assured Valentine it wasn't anything favorable and read some of the excerpts on the air. Valentine responded, "I wish he had told me three weeks into the season instead of hugging me all the time when he saw me. That was a weird situation, and I don't know how it could've been about me in spring training in Fort Myers. But I've heard a lot of those general comments. But ... whatever. I hope he sells a lot of books and you know, I've been in president's books, hall of famer's books and another future hall of famer. I hope I can help him sell some.
 
"Hey, if he hated me from the first day, he fooled me. I always liked him. I thought it was a wonderful relationship with me and him. The first day I was there, I did my press conference and the next morning I flew down to the Dominican Republic to represent the team at his golf tournament. I thought from that day on, things were really good."
Donald Violette <donfrombarre@gmail.com>: May 11 03:08PM -0700

BENNIE GETS A - FOR THE 4 LOB HAVING 5 CHANCES;
E-ROD GETS A + FOR PITCHING 6 INNINGS GIVING UP JUST 1 RUN.
AND KIMBRELL GETS A + FOR GETTING 5 OUTS ALL VT THE K.
 
ONE LAST PERSONAL COMMENT: I HOPE YOU GUYS ENJOY THESE GRADES, THAT IT TOOK 3 PARTS TO DO THEM SHOULD TELL YOU I WAS HAVING ALL KINDS OF COMPUTER PROBLEMS.
Donald Violette <donfrombarre@gmail.com>: May 11 02:51PM -0700

VASQUEZ GETS A + FOR THE HIT WALK AND RUN SCORED.
Donald Violette <donfrombarre@gmail.com>: May 11 02:41PM -0700

COMMENTS FIRST:1. AFTER THE LAST TWO LOUSY STARTS E-ROD SURE WAS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR. 2. WITH PORCELLO GOING IN GAME ONE AND SALE IN GAME TWO I LIKE THEIR CHANCES OF WINNING THE SERIES IN ST. LOUIS.
 
TO THE ALMOST ALL GOOD GRADES:
BETTS IS CLEARLY THE STAR OF THE GAME FOR THE 3 RUN BLAST IN THE TOP OF THE 9TH
THAT WHILE IT WAS OT A WALK OFF HAS THE GAME WINNER. BTW BACK WHEN I WOULD DO LONGER GRADES I CALLED SUCH HITS LAST AT BAT HITS.
nate <greystone@net1plus.com>: May 11 02:21PM -0700

Eduardo & Mookie - co-STARS.
Kimbrel big plus.
 
 
- nate
dcp7 <mrdls437@yahoo.com>: May 11 01:54PM -0700

A homofag hero Mookie loves it in the butt.
Pearly Soames <pearlysoames99@gmail.com>: May 11 01:27PM -0700

Pearly Soames <pearlysoames99@gmail.com>: May 11 01:42PM -0700

On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 4:27:23 PM UTC-4, Pearly Soames wrote:
 
And Kimbrel finished it. Rodriguez is really starting to look good.
dcp7 <mrdls437@yahoo.com>: May 11 12:39PM -0700

Is more exciting..
nate <greystone@net1plus.com>: May 11 09:28AM -0700

View in fixed font!
Raw data from Baseball-Reference.com
 
HITTING
Ev = Events = PA + SB + CS
OC = Outs Created = AB-H + CS + SF + SH + GIDP + OoB
BP = Bases Produced = TB+BB+SB+SF+SH-CS-GIDP+HBP+CI+XBT
AdjOPS = BP/ ( OC or 1, whichever is more )
PfAdjOPS = AdjOPS corrected for Park Factor
 
BOS hitting Ev OC BP AdjOPS PfAdjOPS
Chased'Arnaud BOS+ 11 5 7 1.400 1.3957
AndrewBenintendi BOS 148 91 82 .901 .8706
MookieBetts BOS 137 87 78 .897 .8662
XanderBogaerts BOS 125 74 63 .851 .8226
ChrisYoung BOS 88 57 44 .772 .7458
MitchMoreland BOS 137 89 68 .764 .7382
DustinPedroia BOS 131 81 61 .753 .7276
ChristianVazquez BOS 52 33 24 .727 .7027
HanleyRamirez BOS 121 84 56 .667 .6441
SandyLeon BOS 72 55 30 .545 .5270
MarcoHernandez BOS 61 42 21 .500 .4831
KyleKendrick BOS 2 2 1 .500 .4831
JackieBradley BOS 70 54 26 .481 .4652
JoshRutledge BOS 28 19 9 .474 .4577
PabloSandoval BOS 68 53 25 .472 .4557
BrockHolt BOS 19 14 6 .429 .4141
SteveSelsky BOS 9 8 2 .250 .2415
DevenMarrero BOS 9 9 1 .111 .1074
DrewPomeranz BOS 1 1 0 .000 .0000
---------------------------------------------------------------
BOS 1279 874 593 .678490
 
PITCHING
Ev = Events = Batters Faced + Steal Attempts
OI = Outs Induced = AB-H + CS + SF + SH + GIDP
BG = Bases Given = TB+BB+SB+SF+SH-CS-GIDP+HBP + (BK+WP-IBB)
AdjOPS = BG/ ( OI or 1, whichever is more )
PfAdjOPS = AdjOPS corrected for Park Factor
 
BOS pitching Ev OI BG AdjOPS PfAdjOPS
NoeRamirez BOS 5 5 0 .000 .0000
CraigKimbrel BOS 51 43 12 .279 .2696
RobbyScott BOS 32 26 8 .308 .2973
ChrisSale BOS 195 154 55 .357 .3451
JoeKelly BOS 68 52 20 .385 .3716
HeathHembree BOS 82 54 31 .574 .5547
FernandoAbad BOS 39 29 17 .586 .5664
BrandonWorkman BOS 13 8 5 .625 .6039
EduardoRodriguez BOS 124 87 57 .655 .6330
MattBarnes BOS 60 42 29 .690 .6671
RickPorcello BOS 194 134 93 .694 .6706
BenTaylor BOS 50 33 23 .697 .6734
DrewPomeranz BOS 138 96 70 .729 .7045
RobbieRoss BOS 21 13 10 .769 .7432
StevenWright BOS 115 73 80 1.096 1.0588
KyleKendrick BOS 47 25 29 1.160 1.1208
BrianJohnson BOS 25 15 18 1.200 1.1594
---------------------------------------------------------------
BOS 1259 878 575 .654897
 
 
- nate
Donald Violette <donfrombarre@gmail.com>: May 11 09:27AM -0700

start with the grades today:
Bennie gets a - for the 4 lob.
I should cut him some slack since he only had 2 ABs due to the injury but hanley Hanley gets a - because he also had 4 lob.
Because he got 2 hits a run scored and a ribbie but had 4 lob jbj gets a pass
Yet another pass for vasques who though he got on base 3 times he had 2 throwing errors and 2 lob.
Hembree gets a - for for giving up 1 run 2 hits and 2 walks in his inning
And Kendrick is the GOAT for giving up the 6 runs in 4.1 innings.
 
on to my comment: sometimes i hate being right like i was in y grades for tuesday nights game when i worried about kendrick pitching like he did last time.
Donald Violette <donfrombarre@gmail.com>: May 11 08:27AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 12:22:12 PM UTC-4, Donald Violette wrote:
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