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Saturday, April 29, 2017

The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Apr 29 01:34PM -0700

Why's that? He said he'd win the election and he won! Whereas the WP, Clinton News Network etc said Hillary would win lol
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Apr 29 01:49PM -0700

Lol but you're only anti-Trump cos you follow what all the lefty PC media tell you. Also you've given it away that you're a Mirror reader by your Murdoch moaning lol
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 06:12PM -0400


>> ever been to berchtesgarden?
 
>> bob
 
>Is overrated.
 
eagle's nest overrated? :-)
 
was thinking of doing a day trip to salzburg/berchtesgarden. what's
the best way to do that from munich?
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 06:17PM -0400

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 18:42:30 +0100, Brian W Lawrence
 
>Fox News is a Murdoch outlet and therefore not to be trusted, and
>prone to idiotic gaffes and faux pas. Aren't they being investigated
>by the Justice Department?
 
??? so fox news is not to be trusted but CNN, NYT and WaPo is? see
what i mean?
 
>I've heard of Limbaugh and Hannity, that's about it - I know Hannity
>is on Fox News.
 
they both have syndicated radio shows, on for many hours daily. they
have points of view too, they have points to make too. why don't you
ever quote them?
 
>> agencies is feeding you the lies you like to hear.
 
>Which is what I have been saying, don't believe everything that the
>media says, do some research.
 
no you've not been saying that. you pretend to believe that while
still swallowing it up and repeating it here.
 
>Lies? I see/hear very few of those, except from Spicer and his boss.
 
but not from clinton, her campaign manager, or CNN's brazile for ex.
see what i mean?
 
>So Fox News, Sean Hannity & Rush Limbaugh are telling it like it is?
>Interesting.
 
never said that. i said they're telling as much "like it is" as CNN,
WaPo and NYT are.
 
until you grasp that, you're just another CNN sheep.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 06:18PM -0400

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:37:12 +0100, Brian W Lawrence
 
>I forget to add earlier that I'd be happy to quote Fox, Hannity or
>Limbaugh - if they ever said anything worth repeating :-)
 
>Better?
 
and you pretend to be a truth seeker. what a fraud you are brian, and
i had hopes for ya. sigh. carry on.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 06:19PM -0400

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 13:49:11 -0700 (PDT), The Iceberg
 
>Lol but you're only anti-Trump cos you follow what all the lefty PC media tell you. Also you've given it away that you're a Mirror reader by your Murdoch moaning lol
 
what side is the mirror on?
 
bob
calimero377@gmx.de: Apr 29 03:25PM -0700

On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 12:12:12 AM UTC+2, bob wrote:
 
> was thinking of doing a day trip to salzburg/berchtesgarden. what's
> the best way to do that from munich?
 
> bob
 
Berchtesgaden, no "garden" there. There is a quite interesting museum there about the Nazi era. In the vicinity of Obersalzberg, one of Hitler's HQs during WW2.
 
Take the autobahn from Munich. With a rented Mercedes SLC of course! Big parts of that autobahn have no speed limit.
 
Salzburg is great, too.
 
 
Max
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 05:53PM -0400

>> Cool:
 
>> http://www.polihttp://www.politico.eu/article/the-french-leftists-who-no-longer-fear-le-pen-marine-le-pen-jean-luc-melenchon-place-de-la-republique/tico.eu/article/the-french-leftists-who-no-longer-fear-le-pen-marine-le-pen-jean-luc-melenchon-place-de-la-republique/
 
>Why would a commie endorse a democratic politician against a fascist, dummy?
 
macron the democratic politician? oh my. lmao if Le Pen wins.
 
bob
calimero377@gmx.de: Apr 29 03:16PM -0700

On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 11:53:37 PM UTC+2, bob wrote:
 
> >Why would a commie endorse a democratic politician against a fascist, dummy?
 
> macron the democratic politician? oh my. lmao if Le Pen wins.
 
> bob
 
 
Macron will win with at least 60 percent. He is no Hillary.
 
Max
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 06:24PM -0400


>> macron the democratic politician? oh my. lmao if Le Pen wins.
 
>> bob
 
>Macron will win with at least 60 percent. He is no Hillary.
 
probably, but funny how he's been begging for the left votes. make him
suffer til the election.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 06:21PM -0400

On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 02:23:41 +1000, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>
wrote:
 
>>> Rafa in '08?
 
>> Clueless W back again! To answer your question, all Fed fans wish he had bagged the Wim 2008. But on one that I know wished he'd win the FO 2008. So, I take it your joining the bandwagon (Rafa-is-out-of-sorts) is imminent?
 
>No, but obviously this isn't peak Rafa.
 
rafa is clearly playing below his peak these past 3 months, even if
it's an improvement from the previous 2 yrs of injury, etc.
 
the fact he improved a bit to be competitive has got all federer
supporters into some sort of lather that this is peak rafa. peak rafa
wasn't afraid to stay out all day and wear you down, this rafa fears
that.
 
>Peak Rafa was 2010 USO version. Only peak Sampras would beat that guy,
>nobody else in last 20 yrs imo.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 06:22PM -0400

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT), Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>
wrote:
 
>> > nobody else in last 20 yrs imo.
 
>> Rafa's best was 2010 USO version, agreed.
 
>I've often wondered how he served so big in that tournament and not before or since. Odd. ;)
 
he claimed afterward he can always serve that hard, just that he
doesn't normally expect them to go in and he prefers percentages.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 06:22PM -0400

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 09:51:36 -0700 (PDT), RaspingDrive
>> 08-2014.
 
>> bob
 
>I won't mind if he gets the 10th in 2017 but not too many of those after that :)
 
his chance to catch fed was at AO. he let it slip, no way now, you can
relax.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 06:00PM -0400

On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:20:04 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
>> > against-nadal-/
 
>> LOL he could've just waited until Nadal went out of sorts in 2014 and then made up some coblers about his improving Fed's backhand!
 
>Federer has definitely made changes to his backhand(both ROS on bh side and the groundstroke) when he plays Nadal you moron! That's plain to see. It used to be a weakness vs Nadal and it isn't any longer.
 
only because nadal's game has changed and doesn't, or isn't capable
of, exploiting it any longer.
 
he doesn't hit the same type of shot. he hits it harder/flatter than
he used to for the most part, more similarly to djokovic, which plays
to federer's strength. likely he does it cause he knows his body isn't
what it was.
 
>The only question I have is will that backhand be effective enough to beat Nadal at the FO? I doubt it. I think at Wimbledon and the USO, Fed will have the edge vs Nadal if he can continue striking his bh the way he did at the AO/IW/Miami. Also, a lot will depend on Nadal's forehand. On hc his fh didn't look so strong. It looked like he wasn't getting as much depth with that shot. But on clay in MC it looked a little better.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 06:03PM -0400

On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 19:03:54 -0700 (PDT), Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>
wrote:
 
>John L, I agree on all points. Fed beating Nadal at the French, at THIRTY-FIVE, is a delusional notion.
 
nice try.
 
no, not delusional at all. the only thing that would prevent fed from
having a good chance VS nadal on any surface is the 2 months break,
getting a bit out of shape, etc. if he stuck to the clay season he'd
have a very good chance to beat nadal even on clay.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 06:04PM -0400

On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 17:09:26 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
 
>Shut up! Nobody cares what a dumbbell like you babbles on about on any topic.
 
>There is no question that Federer is beating Nadal these days because Federer improved/changed his backhand. He's taking the ball earlier and hitting it flatter and harder. In that fifth set at the AO Federer went all out and didn't falter mentally against Nadal the way he had in the past. So two big things in Fed's favor in the match-up now: The improved bh and the mental edge(Fed's defeated Nadal the last four times) which is something that Nadal had in the past.
 
>It's also true(and I've posted this many times before which some Fed fans such as Arnab took objection to) that in the IW and Miami Fed-Nadal matches, Nadal's forehand wasn't the same weapon it had been in the past.
 
that's absolutely right. his FH is far weaker than it used to be. (1)
many more errors (2) far less topspin.
 
> In Monte Carlo on the clay, Nadal's forehand looked much better thus far so we'll see if he can continue with that.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 06:08PM -0400


>At least with your 'Fed has now figured out Rafa' nonsense you can't
>claim matchup problem but have to simply conclude that all these years
>Fed simply was not good enough (as in having poor bh) to beat Rafa.
 
i'll get slammed for this again, but fed hasn't "figured out rafa."
 
your post is spot on - fed was always very close with rafa minus a
couple FO matches and rafa has dramatically dropped past 3 yrs, while
fed at this point right now hasn't. age just doesn't seem to bother
fed as it has all the other players, is what it is.
 
none of the rst chickens would answer my post of last month asking
people to rate fed, djok, murray and rafa's overall level on a 1-100
scale compared to the best tennis of the past 15 yrs. nope, they all
know what i've got in store for them once they do.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 06:09PM -0400

On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:43:36 -0500, Federer Fanatic
>the newer racquet. Kind of vexing for us fed fans.
 
>Having said that I would expect Nadal to win FO even if he's playing Fed
>in the current form.
 
do you think nadal is at his peak right now?
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 06:10PM -0400

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 10:04:52 -0700 (PDT), RaspingDrive
>> game he's not playing the way he used to.
 
>> bob
 
>He is not surely the USO 2010 level, that I grant to you! He is out of sorts in the sense he probably won't run 'helter-skelter' everywhere to retrieve balls. He is older.
 
that's right. and for all of those people (the majority) who claimed
rafa was just a retriever, when he can't do that well any longer
naturally his overall level has dramatically dropped.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 05:55PM -0400

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 18:42:00 +0300, Pelle Svanslös <pelle@svans.los>
wrote:
 
>Of course it's another one of Trump's brilliant dealmaking moves that
>would pee on his own cheerios if it ever came down to that.
>Please don't remind me how thoroughly stupid this man is.
 
trump even in his campaign was for universal healthcare, left of
obamacare. he didn't even present a plan, ryan did. wise up pelle.
 
bob
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Apr 29 01:25PM -0700

She does look good there!!!
soccerfan777 <zepfloyes@gmail.com>: Apr 29 02:43PM -0700

Lazy fast bastard. He doesn't deserve her. She is maintaining herself and he is growing in leaps and bounds
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Apr 29 01:50PM -0700

Are you hiding something then??!
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Apr 29 01:52PM -0700

Trump Won, he gave Hillary a good beating!
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Apr 29 08:21PM +0100

On 25/04/2017 13:24, soccerfan777 wrote:
 
> She has to play qualifying apparently.
 
I haven't read all of this thread so it might have been mentioned
before. According to the BBC, because she didn't make the final in
Stuttgart she doesn't have enough ranking points to even get into FO
qualifying anyway.
 
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