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Sunday, April 30, 2017

bob <bob@nospam.net>: Apr 29 06:31PM -0400

>> the best way to do that from munich?
 
>> bob
 
>Berchtesgaden, no "garden" there.
 
can't you germans spell? sheesh. :-)
 
> There is a quite interesting museum there about the Nazi era. In the vicinity of Obersalzberg, one of Hitler's HQs during WW2.
 
rented benz? i'm talking public transportation. train? bus?
selling my prius next month too, best car i ever owned!
 
>Take the autobahn from Munich. With a rented Mercedes SLC of course! Big parts of that autobahn have no speed limit.
>Salzburg is great, too.
 
i wanted to take the train to salzburg, spend 1/2 a day, then 1/2 day
in berchtesgaden then back to munich. maybe will need to rent a car
after all.
 
bob
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Apr 30 02:46AM +0200


> i wanted to take the train to salzburg, spend 1/2 a day, then 1/2 day
> in berchtesgaden then back to munich. maybe will need to rent a car
> after all.
 
 
Hitler spent something like 3-4 years outside Berlin in all of his
HQs during the wartime.
 
He spent almost 2,5 years in his pit on the eastern front.
 
 
And they Trump's spending too many weekends at Mar Lago.
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jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com>: Apr 30 01:22AM

On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 02:46:08 +0200, *skriptis wrote:
 
> And they Trump's spending too many weekends at Mar Lago.
 
He promised not to spend time on the golf course, etc during the
campaign. But the reality is he spends entire weekends shamelessly
hauling himself around the course when there is real work to be done.
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com>: Apr 30 01:31AM

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 11:34:57 -0400, bob wrote:
 
> until i hear you quoting rush limbaugh, sean hannit and fox news as
> often as CNN and NYT, then you're showing your preference as well.
 
Rush, Hannity are entertainers and that's pretty much it... and I know
this very well as I've listened to A LOT of conservative talk radio for
decades, not because I agree with them but because I find it interesting
(incredible spin jobs to fool the die-hard conservative republican anti-
environment types like you are pretty fun/funny actually). That isn't to
say that CNN, etc. are unbiased... quite the opposite, but I definitely
don't consider Rush/Hannity to be any kind of reputable source of news...
it's pure entertainment.
Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Apr 30 10:47AM +0100

On 29/04/2017 21:49, The Iceberg wrote:
 
> Lol but you're only anti-Trump cos you follow what all the lefty PC media tell you. Also you've given it away that you're a Mirror reader by your Murdoch moaning lol
 
Last time I read the Daily Mirror I think Gerald Ford was president.
Actually TBH I might have picked up a copy in the
hairdressers/dentists/doctors more recently, but only to kill time, and
to read the gossip and sport, and a tabloid is much more manageable - no
other reason to read a tabloid if it can be avoided.
 
I can't recall when Trump crossed my radar, possibly 30 years ago,
when he was much the same as he is now, so my opinion hasn't really
changed, and he's done nothing to make me alter it. The fact that most
of the media shares my opinion only confirmed it, it didn't create it.
 
He seems to change his mind a lot since starting his new job, which is
normally a good thing, but is seen as indecision or lack of clear
thinking in any 'leader'.
 
 
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Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Apr 30 11:15AM +0100

On 29/04/2017 23:17, bob wrote:
 
>> by the Justice Department?
 
> ??? so fox news is not to be trusted but CNN, NYT and WaPo is? see
> what i mean?
 
Fox News get things wrong regularly. The others are not infallible.
 
 
> they both have syndicated radio shows, on for many hours daily. they
> have points of view too, they have points to make too. why don't you
> ever quote them?
 
Well, I don't/can't listen to their shows, but why would I want to?
 
> no you've not been saying that. you pretend to believe that while
> still swallowing it up and repeating it here.
 
I don't post lies anywhere.
 
>> Lies? I see/hear very few of those, except from Spicer and his boss.
 
> but not from clinton, her campaign manager, or CNN's brazile for ex.
> see what i mean?
 
Well, I can't recall seeing/reading anything by any of them, in fact I
wouldn't recognise the latter two if I saw them. I know the name Donna
Brazile, so assume she sent Hillary an email with some debate questions
and at first denied it. What I don't know is what difference it could
have made - the topics for discussion were hardly going to be a
surprise for any candidate. I will admit that she lied, but she was 'a
politician', they are seldom truthful all of the time. It's a natural
fact of politics - the reason Lincoln became known as Honest Abe was
because he was seen to be unusual in that respect.
 
 
> never said that. i said they're telling as much "like it is" as CNN,
> WaPo and NYT are.
 
> until you grasp that, you're just another CNN sheep.
 
You do realise that I have no way of easily watching CNN, nor indeed any
desire to? I see their Breaking News Twitter feed, but it's mostly
dormant while I'm awake. I also see Fox News' Twitter too, among others.
 
 
 
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Brian W Lawrence <brian_w_lawrence@msn.com>: Apr 30 11:23AM +0100

On 29/04/2017 23:19, bob wrote:
 
> <iceberg.rules@gmail.com> wrote:
 
>> Lol but you're only anti-Trump cos you follow what all the lefty PC media tell you. Also you've given it away that you're a Mirror reader by your Murdoch moaning lol
 
> what side is the mirror on?
 
It supports the Labour Party.
 
If you mean Democrat or Republican, probably Democrat. Icey is
correct in saying most UK media are anti-Trump. Most Brits
are anti-Trump too though.
 
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"Pelle Svanslös" <pelle@svans.los>: Apr 30 12:58PM +0300

On 30.4.2017 0:55, bob wrote:
>> Please don't remind me how thoroughly stupid this man is.
 
> trump even in his campaign was for universal healthcare, left of
> obamacare.
 
He made those promises as late as P-elect. Not just campaign rhetoric.
 
So why didn't he keep them? He's the executive in charge now ...
 
> he didn't even present a plan, ryan did. wise up pelle.
 
... and has the responsibility that goes with it. If he wanted universal
coverage that bad, he could of presented that to the Congress instead of
the Ryan plan, no?
 
But seriously, none of that was ever in the cards. You didn't take that
stuff at face value, did you?
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Apr 29 07:27PM -0700

If he didn't invent it, he's certainly perfected it.. and the one he hit against
Roddick in the 2003 Wimbledon SF was just *insane*. Maybe my favorite single shot
from the Great Man.
The Iceberg <iceberg.rules@gmail.com>: Apr 30 02:01AM -0700

On Sunday, 30 April 2017 03:27:11 UTC+1, Carey wrote:
> If he didn't invent it, he's certainly perfected it.. and the one he hit against
> Roddick in the 2003 Wimbledon SF was just *insane*. Maybe my favorite single shot
> from the Great Man.
 
Fed's volleys! he invented the forehand STOMP volley whereby he hits the ground so hard an earthquake is caused in South America!
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Apr 30 07:39PM +1000

On 30/04/2017 7:01 PM, The Iceberg wrote:
>> Roddick in the 2003 Wimbledon SF was just *insane*. Maybe my favorite single shot
>> from the Great Man.
 
> Fed's volleys! he invented the forehand STOMP volley whereby he hits the ground so hard an earthquake is caused in South America!
 
Yes, we've all seen the 'drive' half volley many times from other
players, but the stomp volley is a much rarer beast in pro tennis
(though plenty in amateur tennis).
 
Fed may well have the best stomp volley ever?
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Apr 29 08:37PM -0700

And he said he doesn't want to be there to please people or the tournament, instead he wants to be there to surprise himself and the people, be there because he loves to be there and be threat to win it.
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Apr 29 08:51PM -0700

Cool. Hope that he enjoys the tournament, and who knows what will happen?
 
"It's all gravy now."
jdeluise <jdeluise@gmail.com>: Apr 30 05:37AM

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:37:39 -0700, PeteWasLucky wrote:
 
> And he said he doesn't want to be there to please people or the
> tournament, instead he wants to be there to surprise himself and the
> people, be there because he loves to be there and be threat to win it.
 
I suspect he never had any intention of skipping it...
TennisGuy <TGuy@techsavvy.com>: Apr 30 01:46AM -0400

On 4/30/2017 1:37 AM, jdeluise wrote:
>> tournament, instead he wants to be there to surprise himself and the
>> people, be there because he loves to be there and be threat to win it.
 
> I suspect he never had any intention of skipping it...
 
Right.
 
 
I said it before and I'll say it again.
Only a fool would pass up the opportunity to win a CYGS.
 
Fed's no fool. Sure his chances are mighty slim, but you can't
win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket.
 
This will likely be his last chance at a CYGS.
Unless of course he wins another A.O. :)
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Apr 30 07:36PM +1000

This was never in doubt.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Apr 30 07:37PM +1000

On 30/04/2017 3:37 PM, jdeluise wrote:
>> tournament, instead he wants to be there to surprise himself and the
>> people, be there because he loves to be there and be threat to win it.
 
> I suspect he never had any intention of skipping it...
 
Had he not won AO then maybe, but no way with calendar slam chances alive.
Tim <firemonkey@gatty.co.uk>: Apr 30 01:29AM +0100

On 29/04/2017 23:22, bob wrote:
 
>>>>>>>>> This FO is no more important
>>>>>>>>> than the past ones.
 
>>>>>>>> Sorry, but that's wrong. I just read a Nadal interview where he actually
 
 
said he wants that 10th FO! When has Nadal ever said those type of
words in the past?
 
He usually said BS like "I'm not the favorite" and "I take it one
match at a time."
 
>>>>>>>> He badly wants that 10th FO and who can blame him? Right now he looks like he's
 
in a good position to win it unless Djokovic snaps out of it.
 
>>>>>>>> These guys like Nadal and Fed play to win slams. Don't buy the rest of the BS
 
they spout which they say because of their sponsorship ties. The slams
get their juices flowing.
 
>>>>>>> Nadal surely covets the 10 FO title as well as the 18th slam count. Who wouldn't?
 
>>>>>> Obviously. Only a simpleton would think otherwise and unless Djokovic miraculously
 
steps up his form, this is Nadal's FO to lose.
 
>>>>> Surely there is a lot of simpletons in RST that think this FO is not important for Nadal
 
. This is important two months for Nadal.
 
>>>> The Nadal-is-out-of-sorts bandwagon dearly wishes for Rafa to bag FO 2017 and, in fact,
 
many more.
 
> his chance to catch fed was at AO. he let it slip, no way now, you can
> relax.
 
> bob
 
I can guarantee that Rafa will get 20 slams.
 
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RaspingDrive <raspingdrive@gmail.com>: Apr 29 05:36PM -0700

On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 6:22:49 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
 
> his chance to catch fed was at AO. he let it slip, no way now, you can
> relax.
 
> bob
 
Maybe you should relax your underestimation of his talent!
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Apr 30 07:17PM +1000

On 30/04/2017 2:58 AM, Carey wrote:
 
> I've often wondered how he served so big in that tournament and not before or since. Odd. ;)
 
Most likely some kind of shoulder injury. We'll find out in his book
after he retires I'm sure.
Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com>: Apr 30 07:20PM +1000

On 30/04/2017 3:15 AM, Guypers wrote:
 
> Armstrong's doctor helped him out!!!!!!
 
If drugs exist to make you serve better, volley better etc why don't
they market it to amateurs? Be a booming market.
 
On the surface it seems retarded to think doping can improve your serve,
but this is rst where most analysis is off the planet.
calimero377@gmx.de: Apr 29 11:39PM -0700

On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 12:24:32 AM UTC+2, bob wrote:
 
> probably, but funny how he's been begging for the left votes. make him
> suffer til the election.
 
> bob
 
 
How is he begging?
 
Max
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: Apr 29 06:18PM -0700

Who benefits from this trope?
 
 
 
The dogs don't seem to be eating the dog food. ;)
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: Apr 29 06:56PM -0700

I hope it drops more and more :)
 
It's stupid argument by stupid people.
Kudos for Federer staying peak at 35, another GOAT evidence.
Guypers <gapp111@gmail.com>: Apr 29 03:34PM -0700

On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at 6:09:05 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
> >in the current form.
 
> do you think nadal is at his peak right now?
 
> bob
 
Yes, not good enough to beat 35 yr old Fed, if only Fed had played like now 08 onwards, Rafa would have 7 FOs, nothing else!
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