Digest for alt.sports.hockey.nhl.mtl-canadiens@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 3 topics

Sunday, April 30, 2017

Nyssa <Nyssa@flawlesslogic.com>: Apr 30 09:57AM -0400

Chuck wrote:
 
> "excessive". Players who have been around long enough to
> have disdain for players who do not hesitate to show off
> their enthusiasm for the game, should retire.
 
One of the commentators based in Washington that was on
Sirius yesterday afternoon specifically called out NBC
for making Milbury the face of hockey commentary for the
US market. He specifically mentioned the PK comment Milbury
made and said until NBC replaces the old school types
it will cloud the perception of hockey for much of the
audience.
 
Yes, NHL hockey is a business, but the players got into
hockey as kids because they enjoyed it. And most still
do. How many coaches have we heard of that tell their
players to "go out and have fun" in a big game? A lot.
 
Do we really want a modern equivalent of the old Red Army
team that were trained to act like robots on and off the ice?
 
I sure don't. I want to get the impression that the guys
out there, while understanding the importance of the playoff
games, *are* having fun and showing it when they score a
big goal or win a big game.
 
Geez! Milbury and his ilk are the problems, not PK or
or Burns or Pageau or any of the other players who are
not only doing their jobs during the game, but *entertaining*
the crowds and fans.
 
For me, I've been muting the sound of the NBC broadcasts and
listening to the play-by-play, commentary, and in-game
interviews from the hometown radio guys on Sirius. I don't
have to listen to Milbury, JR, or McGuire and enjoy the
games much, much more.
 
Clean house, NBC. There are LOTS of retired players out there
who are more insightful, knowledgeable, articulate, informative,
and entertaining the the slobs you've got on there now. Quit
hiring based on their nationality and try hiring based on
ABILITY for a change.
 
Nyssa, who was two-for-two in her picks yesterday
TheMadApe <chiefape@gmail.com>: Apr 30 11:24AM -0300

They ran Milbury out of Canuckistan because of his yap. I am surprised
he has hung on as long as he has in the USA
 
TMA
 
Nyssa wrote:
Gerry <gerry14@hotmail.com>: Apr 30 07:32AM -0700

When Roenick used to do stuff like that, it always seemed to get positive reaction, no?
 
l8r,
Gerry
Nyssa <Nyssa@flawlesslogic.com>: Apr 30 11:14AM -0400

Gerry wrote:
 
> to get positive reaction, no?
 
> l8r,
> Gerry
 
Not from me.
 
I could never stand Roenick when he played, and if anything he's
even more irritating now.
 
Nyssa, who wonders if a few of the articulate and knowledgeable
ex-goalies floating around would be interested in a job at NBC
Chuck <barberphoto411@gmail.com>: Apr 30 09:33AM -0700

On Sunday, April 30, 2017 at 9:58:15 AM UTC-4, Nyssa wrote:
> hiring based on their nationality and try hiring based on
> ABILITY for a change.
 
> Nyssa, who was two-for-two in her picks yesterday
 
I find all announcers on hockey broadcasts stale and boring. Never ending old school cliche's about "how the game should be played" No one ever goes against the grain. For a brief moment, when Rogers won the Hockey broadcast rights, I had hoped they would clean house and come up with a new fresh broadcast team. Silly me. They just grabbed up the contracts of all the dinosaurs employed by Hockey Night in Canada and changed NOTHING :(
Mike <mike@gmail.com>: Apr 30 11:36AM -0300

Another great regular season, another playoff flop by the looks of it. I
have to admit that given the talent on that team over the years it
really is amazing to see them collapse every year. While we lament Max
"Casper" Pacioretty's annual disappearance I can only imagine the
pitchforks and torches that would be present in Montreal if we were
watching this collapse for the umpteenth time. It certainly is time to
give up on that core.
 
Meanwhile Pageau gets 4 goals last night which leaves me wondering - who
is our Pageau if the Habs return with the same lineup next year? Not
even May yet and I'm already losing hope for next year.
Gerry <gerry14@hotmail.com>: Apr 30 07:29AM -0700

Hey, this was their best season... after 5 years of missing the playoffs, they even won a playoff game this year before getting bounced!
 
But seriously, that staff has to go. Sometimes they've had good prospects, sometimes a few good minor league vets, but I would say that by and large the Habs haven't done a great job of stocking the team either. The roster that just finished the playoffs now, you've got the following:
 
NHL prospects: De La Rose, McCarron, Hudon, Scherbak, Lindgren, *maybe* Lernout
 
... so ok, 6 actual NHL prospects on your farm team. The number varies from team to team in the league, it feels a little on the low side to me atm for the Habs. Maybe 2 or 3 of those actually make the NHL?
 
Then fwiw, the rest of the team that played in the playoffs...
 
Quality AHL veterans: Terry, Redmond, Friberg, Matteau, Farnham, Hanley, Danis
 
Longshot prospects: Audette, MacMillan, Didier
 
Roster filler: Camara, Lowe, Petti, Brouillette, Veilleux
 
And a variety of healthy scratches and others. It seems to me like the team has had a lot of filler... guys on PTOs or who were cast off from other AHL teams, etc, over the years. I guess many AHL teams also feature that element, however in an ideal world it would be nice to think you had actual prospects (longshot ones to be sure) on the ECHL affiliate who could be called up instead. Other than Fucale, the Habs don't seem to use their Brampton affiliation very much (Crisp and Thrower are there too).
 
That they've left a dismally unsuccessful coaching staff in place on the farm for so long speaks to what I feel is a general state of neglect for their minor league development approach overall. It's not a huge deal in and of itself, but when nitpicking through the wreckage of another lost season, I think it's worth a mention. It's not like they are alone in the NHL in terms of not running a strong minor league development program. But it's obviously an area which could be improved.
 
l8r,
Gerry
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