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Tuesday, May 31, 2016

Benard Atkins <batkins700@gmail.com>: May 31 03:18PM -0700

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/walter-thurmond-becomes-the-latest-nfl-player-to-retire-early-174938655.html
John Walsh <jwalsh589@gmail.com>: May 31 03:12PM -1000

On Tue, 31 May 2016 15:18:07 -0700 (PDT), Benard Atkins
 
>https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/walter-thurmond-becomes-the-latest-nfl-player-to-retire-early-174938655.html
 
Smart man, Walter Thurmond. So Niners did that, but of course when
they said it was for their health and future, nobody believed them.
"Ras Mikaere Enoch Mc Carty" <moaulanui@hotmail.co.nz>: Jun 01 11:34AM +1200

HAWAII [molokai] <—— [CASA KLINK]:
Blue + White ART: STOLEN \ TROUBLE
 
-------------------------------------------------------
 
BAYER IS LOOKING TO SLIDE IN
AND TAKE-OVER MOLOKAI
 
HO HO HO !
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2OmHIPTjyc
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=dahboo+bayer+monsanto
 
I SURE LIKE DAHBOO77
DAHBOO777 (youtube)
 
PREFACE:
 
Metal gates erected just weeks ago at one of
Britain's most exclusive beaches over health
and safety fears have already been stolen after
locals warned they would take matters in to
their hands
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3568422/Metal-gates-erected-just-weeks-ago-one-Britain-s-exclusive-beaches-health-safety-fears-stolen-locals-warned-matters-hands.html
 
 
 
MOLOKAI:
 
HAWAII [molokai] <—— [CASA KLINK] BLUE + WHITE ART 'costly' SIGN
STILL EXISTS: after being stolen / property / ohana
 
ONLY IN THIS FORM DOES THIS SIGN EXIST,
AFTER BEING RIPPED-OFF !
MAD SCHEMING HAOLE !
 
[picture] NO HAWAIIAN GATE !
http://www.exorcist.org.nz/no_hawaiian_gate.jpg
 
522 LARGE TIMBERS
I HAPPEN TO BE VERY VERY ATUNED TO ALREADY
PAPUA WEST AND EAST ("irian jaya") AND OTHER
SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE: FOREST RAPE ZONES.
 
------------------------------------------------------------
 
#1 THE WHOLE SCHEME
FOREIGNERS
WHO ALREADY SOLD THEIR HOLDINGS IN AMAZON BASIN,
A NATURE CONSPIRACY,
ULTIMATELY ONCE AGAIN TO STEAL, INSULT,
AS IF TO SEE HOW MUCH THEY CAN KEEP ON THIEVING
FROM BLESSED KAANAKA MAAOLI PEOPLES !
 
AGENDA 21 \ FOREIGN TAKE-OVER
 
MO'OMOMI
PICTURES AND COMMENTARY
' CASA KLINK '
 
http://www.exorcist.org.nz/hawaiian_watergate_genocide.html
http://www.exorcist.org.nz/casa_klink_molokai.html
 
MO'OMOMI
 
LARGE FENCE POSTS
SOURCE TO BE DETERMINED,
STOLEN [522 COUNT]
NEW ROAD:
 
* BIG HOLES IN SACRED LAVA FLOWS,
MORE COMMENTARY TO FOLLOW.
 
1. KING KAMEHAMEHA'S DEER (food)
GIFT TO SUSTAIN THE HAWAIIAN PEOPLE,
IN THEIR OCCUPIED, STOLEN KINGDOM,
THOSE DEER WITH GREAT HARDSHIP TO
REACH OCEAN AREAS.
 
2. FRAGILE CULTURE HAWAIIAN PEOPLE AND THEIR
ACCESS TO THE OCEAN, AND KINGDOM ARE BEING
KEPT OUT ILLEGALLY.
THE FENCE REMAINS.
 
THE FACT THAT THE FOREIGN ENTITY TRIED TO
DO THAT, REMAINS CRYSTAL CLEAR.
THE FENCE IS AN ABOMINATION,
ALEX JONES FEELS THE SAME EVIL VIBES FROM
WORKERS AT SUCH FACILITIES. THE NATURE
CONSERVANCY THEFT OF THE NORTH OF MOLOKAI.
 
THE SAME SINISTER VIBES FELT BY ALEX JONES
WHILE IN THE 'forest', EVEN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT
AD COUNCIL IS IN A WAY, AMUSINGLY ASKING
PEOPLE TO VISIT THE 'forest'.
 
THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT HAWAIIAN PEOPLE
OR THE KINGDOM !
NGĀBUSH YOU CAN'T PUT ONE OVER ON ME !
SELL OUTS YOU CAN'T PUT ONE OVER ONE ME !
AND WITH THE POWER OF JAH AND THE TAINUI
KINGDOM, THIS HERE POLYNESIAN KINGDOM
ENVISIONED BY KING DAVID KALAKAUA,
IS COMING ALIVE,
YOU CANNOT STOP !
 
THE FENCE POST, THE FENCE REMAINS,
THE ALEX JONES FELT RIDICULE BY ENVIRO NAZI SHITS,
TOTALLY UN-LIKE THE VIBE IN TE AOTEAROA, NEW ZEALAND.
PSYCHO POLICE STATE AMERICANS,
UN-KNOWING HOW SHIT HOLE POLICE STATE MIND YANKS ARE.
America You Are Strange Creature !
Your People Are Freak Evil Things !
Enough Times To Be A TRAGEDY !
Plastic Hawaiians !
Foreign Design Scheme Paycheck For Enviro Police !
Like Alex Jones, I Now Have Felt This Evil American Style Evil.
Once Again, Un-Like New Zealand (Te Aotearoa) And Other
Places In South Pacific. POLICE STATE AMERICA, FENCES.
AND THE EVIL THAT CREATED AND MAINTAINS SUCH THINGS.
TAINUI KIINGITANGA AMBASSADOR ME !
ANNOINTED BY CLOSEST POOTATAU WHAKAPAPA LINEAGE.
HE CONTROLS A SUB-TRIBE !
A MARAE AND WHENUA, AAINA !
 
YOU HAVE OFFENDED ME !
 
STRAIGHT UP !
SELL-OUT TRAITOUR IWI TRIBES NGABUSH, NOT MAAORI, ARE A MENACE !
HAWAII MOLOKAI,
THAT FENCE, THE GATES, EVERYTHING ABOUT IT,
SITS AS A MEMORIAL TO PAAKEHAA INTRUSION CONSTRUCTIONS,
DESTRUCTIONS OF WHAT WAS BEFORE !
 
 
 
 



ﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣ
Ras Mikaere Enoch Mc Carty
Maangai Kaawanatanga - Tainui Kiingitanga - Te Aotearoa
http://www.exorcist.org.nz — Ko te Mana Motuhake
http://www.exorcist.org.nz/iankahi_eriya_nation_john_frum.html
ﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣ
 
"Yet this is exactly what the quasi Americans,
who call themselves Hawaiians now and
Americans when it suits them, claimed
the right to do at Honolulu."
-- Queen Liliuokalani
Hawaii's Story
By Hawaii's Queen (1898)
CHAPTER XXXIX (39)
"skepticl1@aol.com" <skepticl1@aol.com>: May 31 06:44AM -0700

Memorial Day. My Grandfather was an aid to camp to a general in WWI, while he was riding a motorcycle as a courier, a mortar shell landed to close to him, and his knees were injured, and he had a dent in his helmet, --which I still own—his knees were healing but he wanted to follow his unit as it left for the United States, so he didn't take proper medical care and his knees became infected and he was crippled, and on crutches the rest of his life. They made him a Judge. My Father was so eager to get into WWII that he had his Father sign papers saying that he was old enough to go into the war when he wasn't, during his training in the Navy my Dad contracted Romanic Fever, and doctors said he would never walk up a flight of stairs again, though my Dad joined the merchant Marine for the rest of the war, sailed around the world as a radio officer, and even went on to play college football at Arizona Sate before they were the 'Sun Devils' and he was team captain from the offensive guard position. My cousin was seventy-something and he volunteered to go to the Afghanistan war to instruct Afghanis how to be police men.
"Ras Mikaere Enoch Mc Carty" <moaulanui@hotmail.co.nz>: Jun 01 01:25AM +1200

HAWAII [molokai] <—— [CASA KLINK]:
Blue + White ART: STOLEN \ TROUBLE
 
-------------------------------------------------------
 
BAYER IS LOOKING TO SLIDE IN
AND TAKE-OVER MOLOKAI
 
HO HO HO !
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2OmHIPTjyc
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=dahboo+bayer+monsanto
 
I SURE LIKE DAHBOO77
DAHBOO777 (youtube)
 
PREFACE:
 
Metal gates erected just weeks ago at one of
Britain's most exclusive beaches over health
and safety fears have already been stolen after
locals warned they would take matters in to
their hands
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3568422/Metal-gates-erected-just-weeks-ago-one-Britain-s-exclusive-beaches-health-safety-fears-stolen-locals-warned-matters-hands.html
 
 
 
MOLOKAI:
 
HAWAII [molokai] <—— [CASA KLINK] BLUE + WHITE ART 'costly' SIGN
STILL EXISTS: after being stolen / property / ohana
 
ONLY IN THIS FORM DOES THIS SIGN EXIST,
AFTER BEING RIPPED-OFF !
MAD SCHEMING HAOLE !
 
[picture] NO HAWAIIAN GATE !
http://www.exorcist.org.nz/no_hawaiian_gate.jpg
 
522 LARGE TIMBERS
I HAPPEN TO BE VERY VERY ATUNED TO ALREADY
PAPUA WEST AND EAST ("irian jaya") AND OTHER
SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE: FOREST RAPE ZONES.
 
------------------------------------------------------------
 
#1 THE WHOLE SCHEME
FOREIGNERS
WHO ALREADY SOLD THEIR HOLDINGS IN AMAZON BASIN,
A NATURE CONSPIRACY,
ULTIMATELY ONCE AGAIN TO STEAL, INSULT,
AS IF TO SEE HOW MUCH THEY CAN KEEP ON THIEVING
FROM BLESSED KAANAKA MAAOLI PEOPLES !
 
AGENDA 21 \ FOREIGN TAKE-OVER
 
MO'OMOMI
PICTURES AND COMMENTARY
' CASA KLINK '
 
http://www.exorcist.org.nz/hawaiian_watergate_genocide.html
http://www.exorcist.org.nz/casa_klink_molokai.html
 
MO'OMOMI
 
LARGE FENCE POSTS
SOURCE TO BE DETERMINED,
STOLEN [522 COUNT]
NEW ROAD:
 
* BIG HOLES IN SACRED LAVA FLOWS,
MORE COMMENTARY TO FOLLOW.
 
1. KING KAMEHAMEHA'S DEER (food)
GIFT TO SUSTAIN THE HAWAIIAN PEOPLE,
IN THEIR OCCUPIED, STOLEN KINGDOM,
THOSE DEER WITH GREAT HARDSHIP TO
REACH OCEAN AREAS.
 
2. FRAGILE CULTURE HAWAIIAN PEOPLE AND THEIR
ACCESS TO THE OCEAN, AND KINGDOM ARE BEING
KEPT OUT ILLEGALLY.
THE FENCE REMAINS.
 
THE FACT THAT THE FOREIGN ENTITY TRIED TO
DO THAT, REMAINS CRYSTAL CLEAR.
THE FENCE IS AN ABOMINATION,
ALEX JONES FEELS THE SAME EVIL VIBES FROM
WORKERS AT SUCH FACILITIES. THE NATURE
CONSERVANCY THEFT OF THE NORTH OF MOLOKAI.
 
THE SAME SINISTER VIBES FELT BY ALEX JONES
WHILE IN THE 'forest', EVEN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT
AD COUNCIL IS IN A WAY, AMUSINGLY ASKING
PEOPLE TO VISIT THE 'forest'.
 
THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT HAWAIIAN PEOPLE
OR THE KINGDOM !
NGĀBUSH YOU CAN'T PUT ONE OVER ON ME !
SELL OUTS YOU CAN'T PUT ONE OVER ONE ME !
AND WITH THE POWER OF JAH AND THE TAINUI
KINGDOM, THIS HERE POLYNESIAN KINGDOM
ENVISIONED BY KING DAVID KALAKAUA,
IS COMING ALIVE,
YOU CANNOT STOP !
 
THE FENCE POST, THE FENCE REMAINS,
THE ALEX JONES FELT RIDICULE BY ENVIRO NAZI SHITS,
TOTALLY UN-LIKE THE VIBE IN TE AOTEAROA, NEW ZEALAND.
PSYCHO POLICE STATE AMERICANS,
UN-KNOWING HOW SHIT HOLE POLICE STATE MIND YANKS ARE.
America You Are Strange Creature !
Your People Are Freak Evil Things !
Enough Times To Be A TRAGEDY !
Plastic Hawaiians !
Foreign Design Scheme Paycheck For Enviro Police !
Like Alex Jones, I Now Have Felt This Evil American Style Evil.
Once Again, Un-Like New Zealand (Te Aotearoa) And Other
Places In South Pacific. POLICE STATE AMERICA, FENCES.
AND THE EVIL THAT CREATED AND MAINTAINS SUCH THINGS.
TAINUI KIINGITANGA AMBASSADOR ME !
ANNOINTED BY CLOSEST POOTATAU WHAKAPAPA LINEAGE.
HE CONTROLS A SUB-TRIBE !
A MARAE AND WHENUA, AAINA !
 
YOU HAVE OFFENDED ME !
 
STRAIGHT UP !
SELL-OUT TRAITOUR IWI TRIBES NGABUSH, NOT MAAORI, ARE A MENACE !
HAWAII MOLOKAI,
THAT FENCE, THE GATES, EVERYTHING ABOUT IT,
SITS AS A MEMORIAL TO PAAKEHAA INTRUSION CONSTRUCTIONS,
DESTRUCTIONS OF WHAT WAS BEFORE !
 
 
 
 



ﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣ
Ras Mikaere Enoch Mc Carty
Maangai Kaawanatanga - Tainui Kiingitanga - Te Aotearoa
http://www.exorcist.org.nz — Ko te Mana Motuhake
http://www.exorcist.org.nz/iankahi_eriya_nation_john_frum.html
ﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣ
 
"Yet this is exactly what the quasi Americans,
who call themselves Hawaiians now and
Americans when it suits them, claimed
the right to do at Honolulu."
-- Queen Liliuokalani
Hawaii's Story
By Hawaii's Queen (1898)
CHAPTER XXXIX (39)
"Ras Mikaere Enoch Mc Carty" <moaulanui@hotmail.co.nz>: May 31 05:05AM +1200

HAWAII [molokai] <—— [CASA KLINK]:
Blue + White ART: STOLEN \ TROUBLE
 
-------------------------------------------------------
 
BAYER IS LOOKING TO SLIDE IN
AND TAKE-OVER MOLOKAI
 
HO HO HO !
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2OmHIPTjyc
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=dahboo+bayer+monsanto
 
I SURE LIKE DAHBOO77
DAHBOO777 (youtube)
 
PREFACE:
 
Metal gates erected just weeks ago at one of
Britain's most exclusive beaches over health
and safety fears have already been stolen after
locals warned they would take matters in to
their hands
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3568422/Metal-gates-erected-just-weeks-ago-one-Britain-s-exclusive-beaches-health-safety-fears-stolen-locals-warned-matters-hands.html
 
 
 
MOLOKAI:
 
HAWAII [molokai] <—— [CASA KLINK] BLUE + WHITE ART 'costly' SIGN
STILL EXISTS: after being stolen / property / ohana
 
ONLY IN THIS FORM DOES THIS SIGN EXIST,
AFTER BEING RIPPED-OFF !
MAD SCHEMING HAOLE !
 
[picture] NO HAWAIIAN GATE !
http://www.exorcist.org.nz/no_hawaiian_gate.jpg
 
522 LARGE TIMBERS
I HAPPEN TO BE VERY VERY ATUNED TO ALREADY
PAPUA WEST AND EAST ("irian jaya") AND OTHER
SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE: FOREST RAPE ZONES.
 
------------------------------------------------------------
 
#1 THE WHOLE SCHEME
FOREIGNERS
WHO ALREADY SOLD THEIR HOLDINGS IN AMAZON BASIN,
A NATURE CONSPIRACY,
ULTIMATELY ONCE AGAIN TO STEAL, INSULT,
AS IF TO SEE HOW MUCH THEY CAN KEEP ON THIEVING
FROM BLESSED KAANAKA MAAOLI PEOPLES !
 
AGENDA 21 \ FOREIGN TAKE-OVER
 
MO'OMOMI
PICTURES AND COMMENTARY
' CASA KLINK '
 
http://www.exorcist.org.nz/hawaiian_watergate_genocide.html
http://www.exorcist.org.nz/casa_klink_molokai.html
 
MO'OMOMI
 
LARGE FENCE POSTS
SOURCE TO BE DETERMINED,
STOLEN [522 COUNT]
NEW ROAD:
 
* BIG HOLES IN SACRED LAVA FLOWS,
MORE COMMENTARY TO FOLLOW.
 
1. KING KAMEHAMEHA'S DEER (food)
GIFT TO SUSTAIN THE HAWAIIAN PEOPLE,
IN THEIR OCCUPIED, STOLEN KINGDOM,
THOSE DEER WITH GREAT HARDSHIP TO
REACH OCEAN AREAS.
 
2. FRAGILE CULTURE HAWAIIAN PEOPLE AND THEIR
ACCESS TO THE OCEAN, AND KINGDOM ARE BEING
KEPT OUT ILLEGALLY.
THE FENCE REMAINS.
 
THE FACT THAT THE FOREIGN ENTITY TRIED TO
DO THAT, REMAINS CRYSTAL CLEAR.
THE FENCE IS AN ABOMINATION,
ALEX JONES FEELS THE SAME EVIL VIBES FROM
WORKERS AT SUCH FACILITIES. THE NATURE
CONSERVANCY THEFT OF THE NORTH OF MOLOKAI.
 
THE SAME SINISTER VIBES FELT BY ALEX JONES
WHILE IN THE 'forest', EVEN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT
AD COUNCIL IS IN A WAY, AMUSINGLY ASKING
PEOPLE TO VISIT THE 'forest'.
 
THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT HAWAIIAN PEOPLE
OR THE KINGDOM !
NGĀBUSH YOU CAN'T PUT ONE OVER ON ME !
SELL OUTS YOU CAN'T PUT ONE OVER ONE ME !
AND WITH THE POWER OF JAH AND THE TAINUI
KINGDOM, THIS HERE POLYNESIAN KINGDOM
ENVISIONED BY KING DAVID KALAKAUA,
IS COMING ALIVE,
YOU CANNOT STOP !
 
THE FENCE POST, THE FENCE REMAINS,
THE ALEX JONES FELT RIDICULE BY ENVIRO NAZI SHITS,
TOTALLY UN-LIKE THE VIBE IN TE AOTEAROA, NEW ZEALAND.
PSYCHO POLICE STATE AMERICANS,
UN-KNOWING HOW SHIT HOLE POLICE STATE MIND YANKS ARE.
America You Are Strange Creature !
Your People Are Freak Evil Things !
Enough Times To Be A TRAGEDY !
Plastic Hawaiians !
Foreign Design Scheme Paycheck For Enviro Police !
Like Alex Jones, I Now Have Felt This Evil American Style Evil.
Once Again, Un-Like New Zealand (Te Aotearoa) And Other
Places In South Pacific. POLICE STATE AMERICA, FENCES.
AND THE EVIL THAT CREATED AND MAINTAINS SUCH THINGS.
TAINUI KIINGITANGA AMBASSADOR ME !
ANNOINTED BY CLOSEST POOTATAU WHAKAPAPA LINEAGE.
HE CONTROLS A SUB-TRIBE !
A MARAE AND WHENUA, AAINA !
 
YOU HAVE OFFENDED ME !
 
STRAIGHT UP !
SELL-OUT TRAITOUR IWI TRIBES NGABUSH, NOT MAAORI, ARE A MENACE !
HAWAII MOLOKAI,
THAT FENCE, THE GATES, EVERYTHING ABOUT IT,
SITS AS A MEMORIAL TO PAAKEHAA INTRUSION CONSTRUCTIONS,
DESTRUCTIONS OF WHAT WAS BEFORE !
 
 
 
 



ﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣ
Ras Mikaere Enoch Mc Carty
Maangai Kaawanatanga - Tainui Kiingitanga - Te Aotearoa
http://www.exorcist.org.nz — Ko te Mana Motuhake
http://www.exorcist.org.nz/iankahi_eriya_nation_john_frum.html
ﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣﺣ
 
"Yet this is exactly what the quasi Americans,
who call themselves Hawaiians now and
Americans when it suits them, claimed
the right to do at Honolulu."
-- Queen Liliuokalani
Hawaii's Story
By Hawaii's Queen (1898)
CHAPTER XXXIX (39)
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Mike <mike@gmail.com>: May 30 04:55PM -0300

On 16-05-30 12:00 PM, Gerry wrote:
 
> It has to start with even recognizing that there is a problem. I really don't see that the braintrust has even reached that initial stage yet, unfortunately. But the more heat that is applied, at all levels on all fronts, the more questions are asked, the more scrutiny... the more likely we are to at least have somebody in the chain arrive at that crucial first step of recognition.
 
> l8r,
> Gerry
 
More about BirdGate
https://twitter.com/MarcPDumont/status/737313461236060161
 
Molson appears to be splitting hairs. Why not just come out and say "we
hired JJ, end of story". The fact that it appears Molson needs to make
up a story is very telling.
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Digest for rec.sport.pro-wrestling@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 15 topics

robert <rjs2085@yahoo.com>: May 31 08:52PM -0700

Yes
robert <rjs2085@yahoo.com>: May 31 08:52PM -0700

Yes?
robert <rjs2085@yahoo.com>: May 31 08:51PM -0700

Yes
robert <rjs2085@yahoo.com>: May 31 08:51PM -0700

Hell yeah
robert <rjs2085@yahoo.com>: May 31 08:50PM -0700

Hell yeah
robert <rjs2085@yahoo.com>: May 31 08:49PM -0700

Hell yeah
"%" <persent@gmail.com>: May 31 07:09PM -0700

The Brunei Bindlestiff wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 7:47:09 PM UTC-4, robert wrote:
>> Really?
 
> darn right
 
robby dumped lisa for chad
robert stickler <rjs2084@aol.com>: May 31 08:37PM -0700

I would never
"%" <persent@gmail.com>: May 31 08:42PM -0700

robert stickler wrote:
> I would never
 
did
robert <rjs2085@yahoo.com>: May 31 08:46PM -0700

No
"%" <persent@gmail.com>: May 31 08:47PM -0700

robert wrote:
> No
 
did
robert <rjs2085@yahoo.com>: May 31 08:49PM -0700

Really?
Your Hero <marshalfromtaos@gmail.com>: May 31 08:48PM -0700

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/wilderness-resources/stories/should-we-limit-visitors-national-parks
The Brunei Bindlestiff <unifarva@gmail.com>: May 31 04:48PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 7:36:14 PM UTC-4, robert stickler wrote:
> Jesus speaks English in my bible
 
thats A modern ISSUE YOU SHITHEAD
robert stickler <rjs2084@aol.com>: May 31 08:44PM -0700

It's from 1300
The Brunei Bindlestiff <unifarva@gmail.com>: May 31 04:48PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 7:29:33 PM UTC-4, The Chad wrote:
 
> > that sje talked to him at all should scare you shitless.
 
> You not being under the direct care of the state of Indiana is far
> scarier.
 
NOT REALLY
robert stickler <rjs2084@aol.com>: May 31 08:43PM -0700

You talked to her also
The Brunei Bindlestiff <unifarva@gmail.com>: May 31 04:49PM -0700

first number one in 37 years
robert stickler <rjs2084@aol.com>: May 31 08:43PM -0700

Yuck
robert <rjs2085@yahoo.com>: May 31 04:47PM -0700

Oh cum on
The Brunei Bindlestiff <unifarva@gmail.com>: May 31 04:50PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 7:47:51 PM UTC-4, robert wrote:
> Oh cum on
 
its true
robert stickler <rjs2084@aol.com>: May 31 08:43PM -0700

No
robert stickler <rjs2084@aol.com>: May 31 08:43PM -0700

No
robert stickler <rjs2084@aol.com>: May 31 08:42PM -0700

You look like them
Your Hero <marshalfromtaos@gmail.com>: May 31 08:42PM -0700

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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 01 04:23AM +0200

> responsible and they cause others to pay for their irresponsibility.
> in this case both the gorilla and the zoo.
 
> bob
 
I have no objection to 1)
But I disagree with 2)
 
Even if she was the worst mother, small child should not be able
to find a way to enter gorilla cage.
 
Children can always escape and do silly things. It's expected of
them and a sign that they're healthy.
 
You all talk as if mother pushed the child herself in that cage.
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Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: May 31 07:30PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 10:02:34 PM UTC-4, Gracchus wrote:
 
> Not quite the end. We agree that the shooting was necessary, but view it as a tragedy. You think it's a joke because a "wild beast" is worthless rifle-fodder, and would think it's ok to hunt these things into extinction for laughs. I guess you think it's no big deal for Sarah Palin to shoot wolves from helicopters too, or for that asshole dentist to slaughter the lion recently.
 
I don't think the gorilla was worthless but when it's between a 4 year old child and a wild potentially dangerous gorilla, it's an easy choice for me. Why are you going on a tangent about hunting and slaughtering animals without reason? I'm not for any of that and I think it's disgusting. Here, we are talking about the life of a child.
 
 
 
> She's already being investigated and the zoo isn't. Probably good reason for that.
 
The U.S. Department of Agriculture, which inspects the zoo annually, said it will determine whether the incident happened because the zoo was not in compliance with the Animal Welfare Act.
 
I'm sorry but to me the safety standards do not seem to be optimal because no 4 year old should be able to get into that gorilla enclosure that easily.
Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: May 31 07:33PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 10:21:38 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
 
> anyhow, yes, courty
> thinks it's funny. pitiful.
 
I do not think it's funny. It's tragic. Spin your own stories, don't try and spin stories for me. Thanks.
bob <bob@nospam.net>: May 31 10:40PM -0400

On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 04:23:13 +0200 (CEST), *skriptis
>But I disagree with 2)
 
>Even if she was the worst mother, small child should not be able
> to find a way to enter gorilla cage.
 
i don't disagree the zoo should have a better barrier, but the problem
is if a zoo wants to make an enclosure look like a "real jungle" you
can't have 3" thick glass everywhere - so they try to make things like
moats, natural distance barriers, rock walls, etc, to separate people
and animals. i recall in miami zoo the tigers and people are separated
only by distance. if the tiger can jump 30 feet, well i'd be lunch.
 
they do it for the "aesthetics" which makes the zoo a more popular
experience.
 
>Children can always escape and do silly things. It's expected of
> them and a sign that they're healthy.
>You all talk as if mother pushed the child herself in that cage.
 
kids can do silly things, which is why in such an environment the kid
should be watched twice as hard.
 
let me ask you, if the mother were at a street corner, and took her
attention from the kid, and he was run over dead by a HUMAN driving a
car (not a gorilla holding him), what would we say THEN?
 
we'd say she's a negligent criminal, and i'm 100% certain she'd be in
jail. i don't see how this is any different from the parent's
perspective, whether it was a gorilla or run over by a car. we also
have a law for leaving kids in a car alone - they go to jail. are you
saying it's ok, sometimes parents forget the kid's in the car, it's
ok?
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: May 31 09:25PM -0400


>1) They HAD to kill the gorilla as quickly as possible. No telling what
>the gorilla was going to do, can't take any chances. No brainer, if you
>say otherwise you are weird in some way.
 
it is true, they had to kill the gorilla because whether he intended
to or not, he was strong enough to easily kill the child.
 
>2) The gorilla should not be dead and a hefty portion of the blame has
>to go to the zoo. No way should it be possible for a 3 year old to gain
>access to the gorilla zone.
 
the zoo is partly to blame, but then again, should we blame all cities
for every traffic incident in which someone is able to "fall" into a
street in front of cars, or should people be responsible with children
too?
 
>3) The kid's parent(s) deserve blame as well, as it is negligent to not
>stop your 3 year old from climbing into the gorilla zone.
>Blame the zoo 60%, the parent 40%.
 
i'll go 70 parent, 30 zoo. but the zoo should have a better security,
or better yet, not exist.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: May 31 10:44PM -0400

On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 04:08:56 +0200 (CEST), *skriptis
> your military almost everyday, "by accident"? It's rather amoral
> to be so upset with an unfortunately shot gorilla when people got
> shot as well, bombed etc.
 
that's ok, but the party line is that the people we're killing are
trying to kill us first...now you may disagree, and in many cases you
may be right, but that's the story as it goes. the gorilla was minding
his business in his own space, unfortunate as that space was for a
gorilla.
 
>Or compare it to the treatment other animals get? How many cows or
> pigs or chickens have been slaughtered today in most cruel and
> vicious manner?
 
i agree! totally uncacceptable!
 
>Gorilla died quickly, painlessly and I might add, it was heroic.
 
he went out like john wayne? :-) no i get your point, he didn't suffer
in death. but still, wasn't his fault.

> So you're free to raise the issue of zoos in general, advocate
> their abolishment, but please, without heartbreaking stories
> about poor gorilla, or unnecessary attacks on the mother.
 
i differ - the mother was the faulty party.
 
> outfoxing the zoo security measures.
>If it can do that, it can certainly escape mother's guard for a
> few moments. It's a very brilliant and athletic kid. Great genes.
 
are you saying the kid is the next lebron james??
 
he certainly wouldn't have escaped the sec measures if he was being
watched.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: May 31 10:46PM -0400

On Tue, 31 May 2016 19:30:17 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
 
>> She's already being investigated and the zoo isn't. Probably good reason for that.
 
>The U.S. Department of Agriculture, which inspects the zoo annually, said it will determine whether the incident happened because the zoo was not in compliance with the Animal Welfare Act.
 
>I'm sorry but to me the safety standards do not seem to be optimal because no 4 year old should be able to get into that gorilla enclosure that easily.
 
would you go to a zoo with 3" thick glass over every exhibit? or one
that is made to look like a wild animal space in africa?
 
i agree the zoo's measures proved not to be enough for an unwatched
child.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: May 31 10:48PM -0400

On Tue, 31 May 2016 19:33:41 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
 
>> anyhow, yes, courty
>> thinks it's funny. pitiful.
 
>I do not think it's funny. It's tragic. Spin your own stories, don't try and spin stories for me. Thanks.
 
would you have jumped into the enclosure yourself?
 
bob
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 01 04:35AM +0200

> going to become racial now, when race shouldn't matter. bad parenting
> is bad parenting.
 
> bob
 
See the TT recognised black voice better than you did?
 
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*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 01 04:33AM +0200


> i agree. which is why he was killed, and IMO there was no choice but
> to kill him. now, we have a 2nd choice: prosecute the mother.
 
> bob
 
Why?
 
If anyone should be prosecuted it's the zoo. But I'd rather not
see that either. Best let it be.
 
You're really pushing. If the mother gets punished it will only
fuck up future generations. Parents will tie up their children
out of precaution or fear of not being sued if the kid does
something reckless.
 
You'll turn future generations into zombified morons. You're
advocating not locking up animals but you'd end up with tied up
kids with fucked up mental and psychophysiological development.

 
 
This was just an accident with not such grave consequences. Yes
gorilla was killed, but on a positive note, kid is saved and
gorilla entered history.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Court_1 <olympia0000@yahoo.com>: May 31 08:05PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 10:40:37 PM UTC-4, bob wrote:
 
> car (not a gorilla holding him), what would we say THEN?
 
> we'd say she's a negligent criminal, and i'm 100% certain she'd be in
> jail.
 
You have no idea what you're talking about. If a child impulsively runs away from the mother and accidentally gets hit by a car, it is unlikely the mother would be found negligent. There is tons of case law in this area. If it is found that the mother could not have anticipated that the child would run across the street, the mother would not fail in her duty to exercise reasonable care for the child's safety and would likely not be found liable.
 
It's the same type of situation with this whole gorilla thing where the mother called out for her son and he had already run away towards the barrier. She won't be found negligent. Wanna bet on this one with me too so you can lose again? ;)
bob <bob@nospam.net>: May 31 11:09PM -0400

On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 04:33:17 +0200 (CEST), *skriptis
 
>> bob
 
> Why?
> If anyone should be prosecuted it's the zoo.
 
we say at work we can make an electrical system "idiot proof" but not
"damn idiot proof." there's always someone who can get hurt doing
something ridiculously stupid.
 
> This was just an accident with not such grave consequences. Yes
> gorilla was killed, but on a positive note, kid is saved and
> gorilla entered history.
 
we don't need to handcuff good parents from raising their kids, nor
punish parents for punishing their kids. but we need parents to take
responsibility. i've heard the mother and she's not apologetic, even
though she's responsible for her 4yo kid at all times. she's not
taking responsibility for her own carelessness. that's 1/2 my problem
with her. if a parent lets a child run wild in a dangerous environment
the parent is negligent. makes no difference if it's a zoo or street
corner.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: May 31 11:11PM -0400

On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 04:35:20 +0200 (CEST), *skriptis
>> is bad parenting.
 
>> bob
 
>See the TT recognised black voice better than you did?
 
lol - i didn't think she sounded black at all, and i heard on the
radio today that BLM was going to get involved and found out the race
and backed off, which told me she mother was white. my mistake...
 
i wish she were white because as black unfortunately there will be
implications there that shouldn't be. i.e. things that wouldn't apply
in hungary or croatia or most other places.
 
bob
bob <bob@nospam.net>: May 31 11:16PM -0400

On Tue, 31 May 2016 20:05:32 -0700 (PDT), Court_1
 
>> we'd say she's a negligent criminal, and i'm 100% certain she'd be in
>> jail.
 
>You have no idea what you're talking about. If a child impulsively runs away from the mother and accidentally gets hit by a car, it is unlikely the mother would be found negligent. There is tons of case law in this area.
 
oh my, you don't practice law in the USA. stick to canada.
 
> If it is found that the mother could not have anticipated that the child would run across the street, the mother would not fail in her duty to exercise reasonable care for the child's safety and would likely not be found liable.
 
?? you ALWAYS anticipate your child could do something like that! are
you serious?
 
>It's the same type of situation with this whole gorilla thing where the mother called out for her son and he had already run away towards the barrier. She won't be found negligent. Wanna bet on this one with me too so you can lose again? ;)
 
if she were white i'd bet. as it stands, no. but still very possible.
 
bob
PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: May 31 11:20PM -0400


>> > I was talking about his genes... mother let him do it.
 
>> The mother didn't "let him do it." It was a freak accident.
 
> People use 'accident' too loosely these days to thwart taking responsibility. Not paying attention to your little brat is not an accident. I've had enough with those types of parents that let their kids do whatever they want regardless of their surroundings.
 
I agree, this can't be named an accident. How could a four years
old child manage to get through the fence in a minute?! Why
wasn't the fence designed more secure? Who inspected and approved
the fence? What kind of idiots designed the fence?
Definitely not an accident, and the mother should sue the zoo.
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bob <bob@nospam.net>: May 31 11:23PM -0400

On Tue, 31 May 2016 23:20:15 -0400 (EDT), PeteWasLucky
> wasn't the fence designed more secure? Who inspected and approved
> the fence? What kind of idiots designed the fence?
>Definitely not an accident, and the mother should sue the zoo.
 
maybe the mother could sue the zoo, and make say $500k even though the
kid wasn't injured? would be a great precedent, the next mother who
might really not like her kid could nudge him into the lion pen and
when the lion kills the child sue for maybe $10mil? genius idea!
 
actually just shut the zoo down, would be best.
 
bob
*skriptis <skriptis@post.t-com.hr>: Jun 01 05:05AM +0200

> saying it's ok, sometimes parents forget the kid's in the car, it's
> ok?
 
> bob
 
It's not the same really. Leaving or "forgetting" kid in a car or
at home is a true negligence and not the same as kid running away
from you on the street and getting run over by a car.

 
The second case is a true accident and from what I've read and how
I see this whole zoo incident that was the case here.

 
 
I don't know everything and maybe she is a bad mother, but my
general opinion is that you can't blame parents for accidents
because no one can have 100% control over a child whole the time.

 
If one has that kind of control that's only possible if such
parents tie up their children or beat them, train them, kill
their individuality and turn them into obedient zombies.

 
Then you have a molested child.
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PeteWasLucky <waleed.khedr@gmail.com>: May 31 11:37PM -0400

>> was a rat?
 
> i don't believe in animal testing either, especially for cosmetic
> reasons. i don't buy anything w/out the "not tested on animals" label.
 
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bob <bob@nospam.net>: May 31 11:46PM -0400

On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 05:05:04 +0200 (CEST), *skriptis
 
>It's not the same really. Leaving or "forgetting" kid in a car or
> at home is a true negligence and not the same as kid running away
> from you on the street and getting run over by a car.
 
it's not identical, but the concept is the same: the parent is
responsible - at all times, really - for ensuring the safety of a
child.
 
> parents tie up their children or beat them, train them, kill
> their individuality and turn them into obedient zombies.
>Then you have a molested child.
 
it's obvious an accident can happen in unforseen circumstances and
parents aren't always to blame for every wacky thing that can happen.
you're pt is valid.
 
IMO the argument is if a zoo is an atmoshere that should require a
parent to be more astute than in a bedroom with padded rubber walls.
IMO, a zoo is not as bad as a busy street corner, but it is not a
fenced backyard either. there are dangerous creatures present, gotta
make certain lil johnny isn't running amok like he can get away with
at home. it's just smart parenting, and IMO this mother didn't do
that.
 
at least the sorrowful incident is bringing attention to (a) should
gorillas be in zoos (b) should parents be more responsible.
 
bob
Gracchus <gracchado@gmail.com>: May 31 06:43PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 6:34:09 PM UTC-7, bob wrote:
 
> > People used to compare Safin to Ivan Drago in "Rocky IV" based on his appearance, but Lendl matched the personality more.
 
> far more, the communist machine drago (lendl) brought down by the
> overmatched but plucky american rocky (jimbo).
 
Remember that USO final between them (either '82 or '83) where Lendl tried to spike an overhead through Connors at the net? Connors tried to give the finger-shake warning to Lendl, who wouldn't make eye-contact, and when the camera came back close-up to Connors on the baseline, he clearly mouthed "motherfucker." :)
 
One of Lendl's better "Drago moments" was after crushing Vilas, when he said, "I did not even want him to win a point. I was not even thinking about a game."
bob <bob@nospam.net>: May 31 09:59PM -0400

On Tue, 31 May 2016 18:43:28 -0700 (PDT), Gracchus
 
>> far more, the communist machine drago (lendl) brought down by the
>> overmatched but plucky american rocky (jimbo).
 
>Remember that USO final between them (either '82 or '83) where Lendl tried to spike an overhead through Connors at the net? Connors tried to give the finger-shake warning to Lendl, who wouldn't make eye-contact, and when the camera came back close-up to Connors on the baseline, he clearly mouthed "motherfucker." :)
 
i remember it well. in fact i always thought that lendl was afraid or
intimidated by jimmy, at least early 80s when jimmy beat him in the
1st 3 slam encounters.
 
>One of Lendl's better "Drago moments" was after crushing Vilas, when he said, "I did not even want him to win a point. I was not even thinking about a game."
 
bob
Carey <carey_1959@yahoo.com>: May 31 07:38PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 31, 2016 at 6:34:09 PM UTC-7, bob wrote:
 
> far more, the communist machine drago (lendl) brought down by the
> overmatched but plucky american rocky (jimbo).
 
> bob
 
 
Are you forgetting Lendl doing that routinely to JMac? (21-15 overall, 7-3 in Majors, both in Lendl's favor).
DavidW <no@email.provided>: Jun 01 11:13AM +1000

On 1/06/2016 8:31 AM, Court_1 wrote:
 
> Probably none of them will stop Serena but I've thought that before
> and been wrong. I don't think Svitolina or Suarez Navarro in
> particular will be the ones to stop her though.
 
Stosur can beat anyone if she keeps playing like she did today. Halep
wasn't playing badly but couldn't handle Stosur's power and was crushed.
bob <bob@nospam.net>: May 31 09:05PM -0400

On Tue, 31 May 2016 10:10:01 -0700 (PDT), RaspingDrive
 
>> that's right. i talk about john sometimes. like i talk about hillary
>> clinton.
 
>It appears you are OBSESSED with John.
 
? if i were obsessed i'd reply to him. he got 1 month reply in past 3
yrs.
 
> What Gracchus wrote in his always lucid and logical way appeals well to my sense. It seems you cannot tackle him (John) directly yet your ego would not permit you to accept your seeming failing, and then you find ways and means of addressing your frailty through digs at John when replying to someone. It seems he simply blasts you out of the court like Rosol did Nadal or Djok did Fed at AO 2015 and you appear to run away. This is my interpretation of your behavior and I hope I am wrong ;)
 
how do you discuss anything with a guy who just repeats "sampras suck
on clay"? easy - don't talk to him and criticize his ignorance
anywhere else u feel like it.
 
bob
"Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net>: May 31 07:16PM -0400

In article <3ldrkblp30ljsejur8d4cqaq72dltfja3u@4ax.com>,
> >in the looks department, still objectively a 9+, no adjustments for age. ;)
 
> yep, she is you lucky guy. if only she were a sampras fan she'd make
> you see the light. :-)
 
I'm curious to know if it is another case of male judgment being smarter
than female judgment since he married her and she married him.
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